| 00:00:00 | Well get in on the act.
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| 00:00:01 | They came with the idea that
they were going to stick to
their strategy and plan that the
democrats would have to scrap
this and start all over again in
order to have any kind of
bipartisan effort.
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| 00:00:12 | They know that's not going to
happen.
|
| 00:00:14 | And they came with their props.
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| 00:00:17 | They had the old legislation
with all of their 1,100 pages or
so to show that they could
continue to say, see, all of
this that they put into their
health care plan.
|
| 00:00:29 | They just want to take over, the
government wants to take over,
obama care, all of that.
|
| 00:00:34 | >> There is that fear, the
fearmongering.
|
| 00:00:37 | Obama got a bit tough with the
republicans.
|
| 00:00:39 | Watch this.
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| 00:00:39 | >> To this point, the
republicans have had 24 minutes,
the democrats 52 minutes.
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| 00:00:46 | Let's try to have as much
balance as we can.
|
| 00:00:49 | >> You're right, there was an
imbalance on the opening
statements because I'm the
president.
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| 00:00:53 | >> I love that.
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| 00:00:54 | Don't we need more moments like
that, lizz?
|
| 00:00:56 | >> Yes, but there's nothing more
offensive to me than hearing men
who have -- and mostly men, who
have graduate degrees and some
doctorate degrees complaining
they have to read too much.
|
| 00:01:10 | Maxine, correct me if I'm wrong,
isn't the tenant of your job to
read things and write things?
|
| 00:01:14 | >> All the time.
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| 00:01:18 | You've got to read, read, read.
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| 00:01:20 | I'm five hours between
california and washington.
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| 00:01:23 | I read all the way there, all
the way back.
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| 00:01:26 | It's hard to keep up, but you
have to read.
|
| 00:01:28 | You have to keep up.
|
| 00:01:29 | >> Maxine, we're not going to
get the public option in this
bill.
|
| 00:01:33 | That's dead, right?
|
| 00:01:34 | >> Yes, yes.
|
| 00:01:36 | >> Is that a failure on obama's
part?
|
| 00:01:39 | How do we construe this now?
|
| 00:01:41 | >> He did not put the public
option in his plan.
|
| 00:01:45 | As a matter of fact, he never
got out front even when he was
saying that he was for public
option.
|
| 00:01:49 | As you know, a lot of us,
particularly the progressives in
the house, are for a public
option.
|
| 00:01:55 | We've been fighting for it.
|
| 00:01:57 | We want it very badly.
|
| 00:01:59 | We're disappointed we won't have
public option in the plan he's
proposing.
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| 00:02:03 | And that's going to cause
problems on the floor.
|
| 00:02:07 | There will be some people that
won't vote for it because it
doesn't have national exchanges
or public option.
|
| 00:02:14 | >> Okay, everybody.
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| 00:02:15 | Stay right where you are.
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| 00:02:16 | We'll be back in 60 seconds.
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| 00:03:20 | >>> Okay, let's turn to another
sarah
palin, former florida governor
jeb bush made some interesting
comments about the former alaska
governor.
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| 00:03:30 | Watch this.
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| 00:03:31 | >> My personal belief is that
for governor palin to be a
successful candidate for higher
office, she needs to take this
charisma she has and also add to
it some depth of understanding
of the complexity of life that
we're living in today.
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| 00:03:50 | >> He should know, his brother
is george bush.
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| 00:03:52 | >> And very complex.
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| 00:03:53 | >> Hello.
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| 00:03:55 | Let me ask you, maxine, is this
a back handed compliment or a
straightforward dis?
|
| 00:04:01 | >> Well, it's about what most
people are saying about sarah
palin.
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| 00:04:05 | She's entertaining.
|
| 00:04:07 | She's rallying the crowds.
|
| 00:04:10 | She makes for good theater.
|
| 00:04:12 | All of that.
|
| 00:04:13 | But it's not going to translate
into the presidency.
|
| 00:04:18 | Simply because the consensus is
that she does not run deeply
enough.
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| 00:04:23 | That she is not well prepared.
|
| 00:04:26 | That she simply is not ready to
be the president of the united
states.
|
| 00:04:30 | I think you will hear that kind
of conversation going on about
her all the time.
|
| 00:04:35 | >> Right.
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| 00:04:36 | Ron, palin's spokeswoman quit.
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| 00:04:38 | Do you know why she might have
quit?
|
| 00:04:41 | >> Well, she said she wanted to
spend more time with her family
and perhaps she did.
|
| 00:04:45 | But maybe she thought she was
involved in a legitimate
political movement or political
campaign for the presidency.
|
| 00:04:52 | And maybe she came to the
realizations the person she was
backing, working for really was
totally unqualified and unsuited
to that job as jeb bush
suggested.
|
| 00:05:03 | >> What do you think?
|
| 00:05:04 | >> When you sign on with sarah
palin, after 10 seconds of being
around her, you should know
that.
|
| 00:05:10 | Why did it take this woman so
long to quit?
|
| 00:05:13 | I look at -- listen to jeb bush
and what I hear him saying is
wow, the thing about sarah palin
is we could just harness all
that charisma and sort of thrust
it onto a carcass with a brain,
that would be awesome.
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| 00:05:30 | >> You know, sometimes I wonder
if this kind of thing we do
about sarah palin helps her,
calling her dumb and implying
that --
>> I don't have to call her
dumb.
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| 00:05:39 | >> I know.
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| 00:05:40 | But I wonder because we are
having so much fun on this
woman.
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| 00:05:45 | I don't know, I'm developing a
stutter as a result of it.
|
| 00:05:49 | You know, ron, the gop loves to
bring your father, ronald
reagan, into any discussion
whenever possible.
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| 00:05:56 | So it's no surprise they dug up
some of his comments from 1961
to support their opposition to
health care reform.
|
| 00:06:03 | Let's listen.
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| 00:06:04 | >> One of the traditional ma
theds of imposing statism or
socialism on a people has been
by way of medicine.
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| 00:06:13 | It's very easy to disguise a
medical program as a
humanitarian project.
|
| 00:06:18 | From here it's a short step to
all the rest of socialism.
|
| 00:06:22 | >> Wasn't your father talking
about medicare?
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| 00:06:25 | >> Yes, he was, what would
become medicare and he went on
to say if you socialize the
doctor, you'll socialize the
patient and talked about the
doctors being told where to
live.
|
| 00:06:35 | Guess what?
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| 00:06:36 | We've had medicare now for
almost 50 years and none of
those things have happened.
|
| 00:06:40 | My father happened to have been
wrong in his assessment there.
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| 00:06:43 | But it's no secret the
republicans like to quote from
it.
|
| 00:06:48 | >> He was a ground breaker in
promoting the socialist agenda,
ron.
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| 00:06:53 | >> Way ahead of it.
|
| 00:06:54 | He stayed away from the death
panels, though.
|
| 00:06:57 | >> The interesting thing about
ronald reagan is he really
believed that.
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| 00:07:00 | You know what I'm saying?
|
| 00:07:01 | He wasn't a phony or fake about
it.
|
| 00:07:03 | He really believed that and i
have the greatest respect for
because he is
philosophically different.
|
| 00:07:12 | >> And takes a lot of flak from
the right wing because he
doesn't go lock step with his
father.
|
| 00:07:19 | It's as if a man isn't allowed
to think for himself.
|
| 00:07:22 | But the gop is always trotting
out ronald reagan.
|
| 00:07:25 | Can't they come up with
something new?
|
| 00:07:27 | This was 50 years ago.
|
| 00:07:28 | >> Who would they come up with?
|
| 00:07:30 | >> They love him and every
building in this country is
going to be named after him.
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| 00:07:36 | >> Which means it will also be
named after me, which I love.
|
| 00:07:40 | >> Yes, that's true.
|
| 00:07:42 | >> I forgot about that.
|
| 00:07:44 | But in the recording, reagan
says doctors are going to be
told where to live, where to
practice.
|
| 00:07:50 | He was the original
fearmongerrer, too.
|
| 00:07:54 | >> But he was wrong, as we now
see.
|
| 00:07:56 | Rush limbaugh can quote this all
he wants but he's just reminding
people that my father in this
instance was wrong.
|
| 00:08:05 | >> Rush limbaugh is no ronald
reagan.
|
| 00:08:07 | >> That's for sure.
|
| 00:08:08 | >> Thanks, everybody.
|
| 00:08:11 | Very interesting.
|
| 00:08:13 | Next up, giuliana and bill
rancic join me next.
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| 00:08:15 | So stay put.
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| 00:10:58 | >>> That was scary.
|
| 00:10:59 | You never want to hear your
doctor say, I've never seen that
before.
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| 00:11:02 | >> No, that's not good.
|
| 00:11:12 | >> Immediately I was like, we
can't have a baby.
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| 00:11:13 | This is the problem.
|
| 00:11:15 | >> She's the beautiful managing
editor and anchor for "e news"
and he's the winner of the first
season of "apprentice," probably
the best-looking one on there,
besides donald, of course.
|
| 00:11:27 | Today they make married life
look easy.
|
| 00:11:31 | On their hit reality series
"giuliana and bill" on the style
network.
|
| 00:11:36 | Joining me now are giuliana and
bill rancic.
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| 00:11:38 | Thank you for being here, guys.
|
| 00:11:40 | You have been trying to get
pregnant this season and I see
the cameras are right up there.
|
| 00:11:45 | A little intimate.
|
| 00:11:48 | Katie couric did have a
colonoscopy on television.
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| 00:11:57 | >> My mom called me and said,
must you show people your uterus
on television?
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| 00:12:03 | And I said if it will help
people, why not?
|
| 00:12:12 | Having a baby the unnatural way.
|
| 00:12:14 | But the way we feel is, it
doesn't matter if you have a
baby through a surrogate mother,
if you adopt a baby.
|
| 00:12:22 | At the end of the day, you have
a baby.
|
| 00:12:24 | >> What about the stork, have
you considered that?
|
| 00:12:27 | >> The stork?
|
| 00:12:28 | >> Go ahead, bill.
|
| 00:12:29 | >> It's amazing how many couples
out there it affects.
|
| 00:12:32 | And how many people have
identified with what we're going
through on the show.
|
| 00:12:36 | I don't think a day has gone by
in the last two months where
someone hasn't come up to us,
whether in an airport or walking
across the street saying I'm
going through the same thing or
my sister is going through the
same thing.
|
| 00:12:50 | >> Do you like that when people
come up and say I've seen your
uterus on tv?
|
| 00:12:56 | >> Only when they compliment and
say, what a beautiful uterus.
|
| 00:13:01 | >> It's a little funny at first,
but people used to come up to us
for different reasons.
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| 00:13:07 | I like them coming up to us for
this reason, saying thank you
for doing this.
|
| 00:13:13 | 1 In 7 women has problems in
getting pregnant.
|
| 00:13:16 | >> It's an age thing.
|
| 00:13:17 | >> It is for the most part,
right.
|
| 00:13:20 | >> For couples 35 or older, you
have a 5% to 7% chance of you
getting pregnant per month or
actually conceiving a baby.
|
| 00:13:31 | So when you're 35 years old, the
deck is stacked against you.
|
| 00:13:37 | >> When you're 20, you can get
pregnant like that.
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| 00:13:40 | >> And they never want to.
|
| 00:13:41 | That's the irony of it.
|
| 00:13:43 | >> So we are -- and that's what
I THOUGHT, I WAS IN MY 20s AND I
Thought, my gosh, I would look
at these women in hollywood,
these actresses and I would say,
when I'm 35, 40, I'll pop out a
couple twins, too.
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| 00:13:56 | Then I reached 35 years old and
I realized this is very
difficult.
|
| 00:14:00 | >> A LOT OF WOMEN IN THEIR 50s
AND 60s ARE HAVING BABIES, TOO.
|
| 00:14:04 | >> They are.
|
| 00:14:04 | They're using surrogates, by the
way.
|
| 00:14:07 | >> What about a surrogate?
|
| 00:14:08 | >> We're not at that point yet.
|
| 00:14:11 | Right now we're starting our
first round of ibs next week.
|
| 00:14:16 | So we'll see what happens.
|
| 00:14:18 | >> You were on "the view" this
morning with me, both of you.
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| 00:14:22 | And people are buzzing.
|
| 00:14:23 | After you left, there was buzz,
buzz, buzz about your reluctance
to gain weight.
|
| 00:14:28 | Let me show people what
happened.
|
| 00:14:31 | >> My doctor recommended that i
gain weight in order to start
ovulating consistently.
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| 00:14:39 | You know --
>> does he say like 15, 20
pounds?
|
| 00:14:43 | >> He said 5 to 10 pounds which
I know isn't a big deal and if
you want to have a baby you
should do whatever it takes.
|
| 00:14:49 | But I had to bite that bullet.
|
| 00:14:52 | I finally did gain five pounds.
|
| 00:14:54 | >> You realize if you get
pregnant you're going to gain
weight.
|
| 00:14:58 | >> Of course.
|
| 00:14:58 | But here's the thing I look at
all these women who are thin and
get pregnant.
|
| 00:15:03 | Look at nicole richie, she
weighs 80 pounds.
|
| 00:15:07 | >> She was considered anorexic
at some point.
|
| 00:15:09 | >> Look at angelina jolie who is
half my size.
|
| 00:15:14 | So a see a lot of these women, i
know a lot of people who have
been very thin and gotten
pregnant.
|
| 00:15:20 | If infertility were that easy,
if the answer was to gain five
pounds, infertility wouldn't be
a problem.
|
| 00:15:27 | That's not the real problem.
|
| 00:15:28 | And unfortunately we work in a
very shallow business,
especially I do.
|
| 00:15:33 | We're not doing hard-hitting
news, we're critiquing fashion
and the way people look.
|
| 00:15:41 | So it's a tougher bullet to
bite.
|
| 00:15:43 | >> What do you think, bill?
|
| 00:15:45 | >> Is that a factor?
|
| 00:15:47 | 100%.
|
| 00:15:48 | Weight is a factor.
|
| 00:15:49 | When you exercise a lot, that
puts a lot of stress on your
body.
|
| 00:15:52 | Working the hours that she
works, you know, you've got to
at some point slow the train
down because your body is saying
you're not going to be able to
have a baby with this pace and
lifestyle.
|
| 00:16:04 | >> But she has, but she's
reluctant.
|
| 00:16:08 | >> Very reluctant.
|
| 00:16:09 | >> 35 Years I've been busting my
butt, working hard.
|
| 00:16:15 | I don't want to stop.
|
| 00:16:16 | >> You know it's a man's world,
giuliana.
|
| 00:16:18 | Really it is.
|
| 00:16:20 | It has to be, because who else
gets ivs treatments and hormone
shots and everything else?
|
| 00:16:26 | Women have to go through that.
|
| 00:16:27 | >> He's got the hard job in
this.
|
| 00:16:29 | >> We had a guy on today, his
sperm count was like the worst.
|
| 00:16:33 | Yet his wife had to go through
four years of this treatment.
|
| 00:16:36 | >> Isn't that incredible?
|
| 00:16:38 | >> It's a bad deal.
|
| 00:16:40 | >> I think, giuliana, you might
have to put some pounds on.
|
| 00:16:44 | >> We're going to take her out
for a big bowl of pasta.
|
| 00:16:48 | >> You know how to lose weight.
|
| 00:16:51 | >> I know, I know.
|
| 00:16:51 | Everyone at home likes to e-mail
and say, are you pregnant?
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| 00:16:55 | You look fat today.
|
| 00:16:56 | >> I know.
|
| 00:17:02 | Stay right there.
|
| 00:17:02 | I want to get your take on some
of the hot topics when we come
back.
|
| 00:20:23 | >>> On "american idol" last
night, it was so sad that one of
the girls -- it was girl's night
and the comments that were made,
it would make you want to kill
yourself.
|
| 00:20:36 | And some of the judges, I don't
think they're qualified to even
judge.
|
| 00:20:39 | >> That was patti labelle
talking about the qualifications
or lack thereof of the "american
idol" judges.
|
| 00:20:47 | Back with me to discuss her
remarks are giuliana and bill
rancic.
|
| 00:20:52 | Now, which judge do you think
she was referring to?
|
| 00:20:55 | >> Probably ellen.
|
| 00:20:56 | I would think she was talking
about ellen.
|
| 00:20:59 | I disagree.
|
| 00:21:01 | I don't think you have to
certainly be on a stage
entertaining people.
|
| 00:21:03 | I think that's what she was
implying is that they're not big
entertainers like she is.
|
| 00:21:09 | But I don't think you need to be
a pop star or singer to critique
these people.
|
| 00:21:14 | A lot of them are music
producers.
|
| 00:21:16 | They get the industry.
|
| 00:21:17 | >> When you go on that show, she
was saying some of those people
would want to kill themselves
after hearing those comments.
|
| 00:21:25 | They know what they're signing
up for and that's part of the
deal.
|
| 00:21:28 | >> But if you don't know
music -- I don't know music.
|
| 00:21:31 | I don't know what I would say.
|
| 00:21:33 | You're too pitchy.
|
| 00:21:34 | I don't know what they mean by
that when they say you're too
pitchy.
|
| 00:21:40 | I know what they say when they
say you're too bitchy.
|
| 00:21:44 | I get that.
|
| 00:21:45 | >> But simon, randy, they were
in the music industry.
|
| 00:21:50 | It doesn't mean they're eloquent
enough to critique people.
|
| 00:21:55 | They can just go she sounds good
or bad.
|
| 00:21:56 | But they're professionals.
|
| 00:21:58 | >> Ellen is in show business.
|
| 00:22:00 | She sees a lot of talent.
|
| 00:22:03 | I'm trying to make sense of it.
|
| 00:22:05 | >> I don't really care.
|
| 00:22:07 | >> But she kind of represents --
>> it's hard to get my thing
going for this one.
|
| 00:22:12 | >> What I like about ellen is
she represents the viewer.
|
| 00:22:16 | She represents the person buying
the album.
|
| 00:22:20 | >> Okay.
|
| 00:22:22 | Now, the girl that got kicked
off "the bachelor" what is her
name, she was having an affair
with the producer.
|
| 00:22:28 | She now allegedly has a sex
tape.
|
| 00:22:31 | She denies it.
|
| 00:22:32 | Do you believe her?
|
| 00:22:33 | >> I'm surprised it took this
long for that story to come out.
|
| 00:22:37 | All these girls immediately
within a week --
>> a word for paris and kim
kardashian, their careers went
through the roof.
|
| 00:22:46 | >> I'm surprised she's not one
of the tiger mistresses.
|
| 00:22:51 | Yeah, you can't really believe
this girl, can you?
|
| 00:22:53 | She claimed she didn't have an
affair with that guy either and
all fingers are pointing to the
fact that she did.
|
| 00:23:00 | I didn't like how she attacked
the host.
|
| 00:23:03 | >> It's good television.
|
| 00:23:07 | >> Of course.
|
| 00:23:10 | >> Now, just before we go,
you're an italian girl from
italy.
|
| 00:23:16 | What part of italy?
|
| 00:23:17 | >> Naples.
|
| 00:23:18 | >> What about these "jersey
shore" kids?
|
| 00:23:23 | >> These are not real italians.
|
| 00:23:26 | >> They're italian-americans,
80% wise.
|
| 00:23:32 | >> But 10th general ration.
|
| 00:23:34 | When y go to italy, this is
not the people you meet on the
street in milan and rome.
|
| 00:23:44 | The fact that they paint their
garage the italian flag, I can
see why real italians don't --
have a bad taste in their mouth.
|
| 00:23:53 | >> I don't think they're in on
the joke.
|
| 00:23:55 | >> That's the problem.
|
| 00:23:57 | Exactly.
|
| 00:23:58 | But they don't care.
|
| 00:23:59 | They're making $10,000 an
episode.
|
| 00:24:03 | Thanks, guys.
|
| 00:24:05 | We'll be right back.
|
| 00:26:27 | >>> A trainer at sea world in
orlando died when a killer whale
grabbed her and pulled her under
the water in front of shocked
onlookers.
|
| 00:26:35 | Sit shocking, really, they're
called killer whales.
|
| 00:26:38 | Take a killer whale out of the
ocean and put him in a small
tank and regardless of
precaution, there's always a
clear danger at hand.
|
| 00:26:44 | Joining me to talk about this is
jane velez-mitchell.
|
| 00:26:49 | >> Hey, joy.
|
| 00:26:49 | >> What happened there that day?
|
| 00:26:51 | The other day?
|
| 00:26:53 | >> Well, this animal lashed out
and grabbed the trainer by the
waist and tossed her around and
this poor woman died.
|
| 00:27:01 | It's a terrible tragedy and the
sad part is, it can happen
again.
|
| 00:27:05 | It's happened many times before
and it will happen again.
|
| 00:27:08 | And the underlying problem is
that these animals are kept in
captivity.
|
| 00:27:12 | That means captive.
|
| 00:27:13 | That's not fun for people and
it's torture for the animals.
|
| 00:27:18 | Remember, this precious animal
was born free in the waters off
iceland.
|
| 00:27:24 | It had many, many thousands of
miles to roam.
|
| 00:27:30 | It was captured in 1983 and put
in a tiny tank.
|
| 00:27:33 | For more than a quarter of a
century, it's been going around
in circles in what would be the
human equivalent of a bathtub.
|
| 00:27:44 | >> It's a major attraction, so
that's the problem.
|
| 00:27:48 | Isn't that the problem?
|
| 00:27:49 | It's always about money.
|
| 00:27:50 | >> Any time you see animal
exploitation, follow the money.
|
| 00:27:57 | Come on, its tail is splashing
the kids.
|
| 00:28:00 | That's science?
|
| 00:28:01 | >> This is not the first time
that this whale has killed
somebody.
|
| 00:28:04 | He's a serial killer.
|
| 00:28:07 | Even though the first two times
were accidents, this sounded
like he was vicious.
|
| 00:28:12 | >> If you were kept in a bathtub
for 25 years, wouldn't you be
angry?
|
| 00:28:17 | >> Yes, I would.
|
| 00:28:19 | >> Basically that's what it
amounts to.
|
| 00:28:21 | >> But this was an accident
waiting to happen, right?
|
| 00:28:24 | >> I believe so.
|
| 00:28:25 | And I believe these animals
should be set free.
|
| 00:28:28 | You know, there are sanctuaries
for whales created around the
world in brazil and chile.
|
| 00:28:36 | I think it's practical to
release this whale back -- give
it back its freedom and the
others like it.
|
| 00:28:44 | >> How are they treated at sea
world?
|
| 00:28:46 | >> That depends on who you talk
to.
|
| 00:28:48 | If you think keeping an animal
in that kind of confinement is
okay.
|
| 00:28:52 | Then it's okay.
|
| 00:28:53 | I don't think that's right.
|
| 00:28:55 | I think it's morally wrong.
|
| 00:28:57 | Any time you see animal torture,
it's about confinement, whether
it's a pig in a pig gestation
crate, billy the elephant kept
in the zoo in l.a.
|
| 00:29:10 | It's always about keeping them
confined and isolated.
|
| 00:29:12 | >> They don't really like that,
but children want to see the
animals.
|
| 00:29:17 | What about those dolphins?
|
| 00:29:18 | They seem happy.
|
| 00:29:19 | >> You know, we can't read into
the minds of these animals but
we can when they lash out the
way they do.
|
| 00:29:25 | This was an animal sending a
clear signal.
|
| 00:29:27 | Speaking, even though it cannot
speak human language, that it is
sick and tired of the conditions
in which it's living.
|
| 00:29:35 | >> Do you think this will change
the way sea world does business
or captures the animals and uses
them as sideshows?
|
| 00:29:42 | I don't think it's going to
change, do you?
|
| 00:29:43 | >> It's all about the consumer.
|
| 00:29:46 | Animal exploitation is a
consumer issue.
|
| 00:29:49 | The consumers can make a change
by say thing is not acceptable
and we want a change.
|
| 00:29:55 | As far as educating a kid,
there's television.
|
| 00:29:59 | >> I hope they set this
particular whale free into the
ocean.
|
| 00:30:02 | There's no reason to kill this
animal.
|
| 00:30:05 | Because it's not like it's going
to cost the state money to throw
him into the ocean, right?
|
| 00:30:11 | Thank you very much, jane.
|
| 00:30:12 | As always, a pleasure to see
you.
|
| 00:30:14 | >> Thank you, joy.
|
| 00:30:15 | >> I want to turn to another
story now.
|
| 00:30:18 | Senate majority leader harry
reid made some comments on
monday that have caused quite a
stir.
|
| 00:30:23 | Take a look.
|
| 00:30:24 | >> I have met with some people
with domestic abuse.
|
| 00:30:29 | It has gotten out of hand.
|
| 00:30:29 | Why?
|
| 00:30:32 | Men don't have jobs.
|
| 00:30:34 | Women don't have jobs either,
but women aren't abusive.
|
| 00:30:37 | Most of the time.
|
| 00:30:40 | Men, when they're out of work,
tend to become abusive.
|
| 00:30:45 | >> Does harry reid have a point
or was he use thing anecdote to
get the jobs bill passed?
|
| 00:30:52 | Here to discuss this is author
of "give me liberty" naomi wolf
and blogger liz benjamin.
|
| 00:31:01 | What do you think about his
statements, naomi?
|
| 00:31:05 | >> I mean, they're statistically
accurate.
|
| 00:31:08 | Domestic violence goes up when
people are suffering from
joblessness.
|
| 00:31:13 | All the stressors, alcoholism,
you know, violence against
chirp, it all goes up when
people lose their jobs.
|
| 00:31:20 | It was a really stupid thing to
say and he said it very poorly.
|
| 00:31:24 | >> Why was it stupid to say?
|
| 00:31:26 | >> Here's why.
|
| 00:31:29 | Apart from that statistical blip
about joblessness, the
stereotype of the lower income
guy beating his girlfriend or
wife is just a stereotype.
|
| 00:31:39 | There are abusers at every
demographic level.
|
| 00:31:42 | The guy who is going to wall
street isn't exempt from
having --
>> so you think that statement
exempted these other types,
these white collar types?
|
| 00:31:54 | >> Yeah, and it was kind of
offensive to unemployment men.
|
| 00:31:58 | >> Why can't it be a white
collared guy unemployed hitting
his wife?
|
| 00:32:06 | >> It was heavy handed.
|
| 00:32:07 | And it was also -- it's not true
that women don't abuse.
|
| 00:32:12 | Women tend to abuse children,
men tend to abuse children.
|
| 00:32:15 | >> The powerful against the
powerless.
|
| 00:32:18 | >> It's never helpful to
stigmatize one group and point a
kinger at them.
|
| 00:32:22 | >> What do you think?
|
| 00:32:23 | >> Just an ill-advised thing to
say, that much I agree about it.
|
| 00:32:27 | I don't know about the
statistics but it makes sense
logically, if people are home
more it gives them more
opportunity to be mean to one
another.
|
| 00:32:37 | But he didn't need to go there.
|
| 00:32:39 | There are a thousand other
anecdotes he could have used.
|
| 00:32:45 | It's just not wise.
|
| 00:32:46 | >> He's kind of loose lipped
lately.
|
| 00:32:51 | One person who doesn't agree
with reid is former presidential
candidate fred thompson, who
responded on twitter.
|
| 00:32:58 | The new way for senators to talk
to each other and people in
politics.
|
| 00:33:03 | He wrote, jobless mean equals
domestic abuse?
|
| 00:33:06 | Is he saying we should be
reid after
the november election.
|
| 00:33:10 | Is he trying to be funny here?
|
| 00:33:12 | I feel like saying to him, fred,
don't do this.
|
| 00:33:16 | Don't do this at home.
|
| 00:33:17 | You're not a professional.
|
| 00:33:20 | >> He didn't say it on the floor
of an official capacity,
obviously, say it on twitter.
|
| 00:33:26 | It feels loose like you can get
away with a lot more.
|
| 00:33:29 | But in this instance, it's bad,
tasteless.
|
| 00:33:32 | He's trying to be provocative.
|
| 00:33:33 | It just fell flat.
|
| 00:33:34 | >> Speaking of domestic
violence, there's another case,
reports about a top aide to
governor -- new york governor
david peterson who is being
accused of violently assaulting
a woman.
|
| 00:33:45 | Tell me about that.
|
| 00:33:46 | >> I don't know where to begin
at this point.
|
| 00:33:50 | It's just the fallout has been
amazing.
|
| 00:33:53 | The story is shocking.
|
| 00:33:55 | In report, this very close aide
to governor paterson, the person
who is with him all the time,
with which this government means
more because he's legally blind.
|
| 00:34:06 | >> He used to be his driver.
|
| 00:34:07 | >> Correct.
|
| 00:34:08 | He's been with him about a
decade now.
|
| 00:34:12 | Allegedly assaulted a woman with
whom he had been living for
about four years.
|
| 00:34:16 | And that's not -- that's bad
enough.
|
| 00:34:19 | But the real problem is that
allegedly the governor spoke to
her the day before she was
supposed to be in court to press
the case, and worse, members of
the governor's own state police
security detail, a member of
that detail went to this woman
to talk to her about it, to talk
to her about it.
|
| 00:34:36 | And she said, in court, in her
testimony that she felt they
were trying to pressure her to
drop the case.
|
| 00:34:47 | >> Her lawyer said she had a
conversation with the governor
on the phone and the next day
the charges were dropped.
|
| 00:34:53 | >> She didn't show up to court.
|
| 00:34:55 | >> And then it was dropped?
|
| 00:34:57 | >> Correct.
|
| 00:34:57 | >> I smell a rat here and i
don't know which rat I'm
smelling yet.
|
| 00:35:01 | >> There's so many rats.
|
| 00:35:03 | If it's true, there's so many
layers of not just immorality
but conspiracy, witness
tampering.
|
| 00:35:11 | >> Obstruction of justice.
|
| 00:35:12 | >> We could talk about this
forever.
|
| 00:35:14 | But this is a hot story.
|
| 00:35:15 | Thank you very much for weighing
in.
|
| 00:35:18 | Next, the hilarious jeff garlin
joins me.
|
| 00:38:43 | >>> I'm talking to my wife now.
|
| 00:38:48 | >> Big fat idiot.
|
| 00:38:51 | Tell your wife I'm an idiot.
|
| 00:38:54 | Write me a letter of apology.
|
| 00:38:55 | >> I will.
|
| 00:39:00 | >> That was a clip from "curb
your enthusiasm" with jeff
garlin.
|
| 00:39:03 | Who decided to reduce both his
waistline and carbon foot print
and began by eating an entire
package of cookie dough before
breakfast.
|
| 00:39:14 | His new book is called "my
carrying the weight
"
welcome, jeff.
|
| 00:39:17 | We go for the lowest common
denominator.
|
| 00:39:20 | >> I watched your last episode,
so I know what you're talking
about.
|
| 00:39:25 | >> Now, this is a lot about your
struggles with weight.
|
| 00:39:28 | >> It's not a how-to book.
|
| 00:39:30 | It's my struggles with losing
weight and there's the going
green aspect also.
|
| 00:39:35 | >> Right.
|
| 00:39:36 | You had a stroke at 37, which i
didn't know and.
|
| 00:39:38 | >> Yes, I did.
|
| 00:39:40 | >> You attended the longevity
center many times.
|
| 00:39:43 | >> Still go.
|
| 00:39:44 | >> And tried every weight loss
strategy known to man.
|
| 00:39:48 | >> Yes, except for atkins.
|
| 00:39:50 | Never did atkins.
|
| 00:39:51 | >> That's the one that would
work, probably.
|
| 00:39:56 | But you don't ever -- you seem
to not be able to get past a
level of weight, right?
|
| 00:40:00 | >> Yes, always.
|
| 00:40:02 | >> Why don't you just do the
stomach stapling or the banding,
those things they have out
there?
|
| 00:40:08 | >> Because I never was -- look,
I had a friend who weighed 500
pounds.
|
| 00:40:13 | He did one of those things.
|
| 00:40:15 | He's down to 220 now, I'm happy
for him.
|
| 00:40:18 | At my highest, I was 320.
|
| 00:40:21 | I mostly lingered in the 290
area.
|
| 00:40:24 | >> What should you be?
|
| 00:40:25 | >> I should be about 220.
|
| 00:40:27 | >> How tall are you?
|
| 00:40:29 | >> 6'1".
|
| 00:40:30 | >> You would be okay at 190.
|
| 00:40:33 | >> I would be look too thin.
|
| 00:40:34 | >> No, you wouldn't.
|
| 00:40:36 | >> Yes, I would.
|
| 00:40:39 | >> You would be lenky looking.
|
| 00:40:42 | >> But I wouldn't do that.
|
| 00:40:46 | Yeah, it just doesn't interest
me.
|
| 00:40:48 | >> What do you think about that
story of kevin smith, the
director killed off of the
southwest airlines.
|
| 00:40:54 | >> I feel horrible for him, i
feel bad for im.
|
| 00:41:00 | Because you could be saying
about what jeff garlin.
|
| 00:41:03 | >> You don't look that big to
me.
|
| 00:41:05 | >> Because I lost a lot of
weight.
|
| 00:41:07 | >> How much have you lost?
|
| 00:41:08 | >> I don't know, to be honest
with you.
|
| 00:41:10 | I don't weigh myself anymore.
|
| 00:41:12 | >> You don't?
|
| 00:41:12 | >> No, no.
|
| 00:41:13 | >> Maybe you should.
|
| 00:41:14 | You're supposed to weigh
yourself.
|
| 00:41:16 | >> Who says?
|
| 00:41:16 | >> Because you want to check
your bmi and everything.
|
| 00:41:22 | >> Bmi schmi.
|
| 00:41:31 | If my blood numbers are good
when I go to the doctor, what do
I worry about?
|
| 00:41:35 | >> So you don't have diabetes?
|
| 00:41:37 | >> I still do, but I'm about to
get checked again in a couple of
weeks.
|
| 00:41:44 | You always have it, I just goes
into hiding, if you will.
|
| 00:41:46 | It's ready to pop out again.
|
| 00:41:48 | >> You yo-yo a lot, don't you?
|
| 00:41:50 | >> No.
|
| 00:41:51 | Never was a yo-yoer.
|
| 00:41:55 | I got up to 320 and made my way
back down to 290.
|
| 00:42:01 | I THINK I'M IN THE 260s NOW.
|
| 00:42:02 | >> All right.
|
| 00:42:05 | Now, I was reading that you
bought a piece of chocolate
while waiting in line for
diabetes medicine.
|
| 00:42:13 | Is that the definition of a food
addict?
|
| 00:42:15 | >> Surely.
|
| 00:42:16 | You're picking up your diabetes
medicine and they say it's going
to be a few minutes.
|
| 00:42:22 | Yes, I would say you have a
problem.
|
| 00:42:25 | >> I think so.
|
| 00:42:27 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:42:28 | And that's the last time by the
way I had chocolate.
|
| 00:42:31 | >> When was that, last week?
|
| 00:42:34 | >> No, it was -- I think it was
new year's, a year ago, 2008.
|
| 00:42:39 | >> That's good.
|
| 00:42:42 | It's been over a year with no
sugar.
|
| 00:42:45 | >> What else don't you eat?
|
| 00:42:47 | >> Fast food.
|
| 00:42:48 | Been over a year on fast food.
|
| 00:42:50 | No turkey, chicken, meat.
|
| 00:42:52 | >> What's wrong with turkey?
|
| 00:42:54 | >> I just don't want to eat it.
|
| 00:42:57 | >> You're in the green thing?
|
| 00:42:59 | >> Yeah, but it's on a lot of
levels.
|
| 00:43:02 | I was once shooting a film and i
remember I past a truck with
chickens in little cages cramped
in there.
|
| 00:43:08 | And I saw a chicken after that,
mind you, but it stayed with me.
|
| 00:43:12 | That's been the easiest
transition.
|
| 00:43:18 | >> How did you get rid of sugar
cravings?
|
| 00:43:21 | >> Took me of two, three weeks
of not sleeping, having
headaches, going through
complete withdraw.
|
| 00:43:33 | And now you can have cupcakes
around me and nothing.
|
| 00:43:37 | But if I took the littlest
taste, boom, off to the races.
|
| 00:43:41 | I'm sick again.
|
| 00:43:43 | >> Were you overweight as a kid?
|
| 00:43:45 | >> Not until high school.
|
| 00:43:46 | >> That's treacherous high
school when you're fat in high
school.
|
| 00:43:48 | Because I don't think -- I know
if you're a girl and you're
overweight, it's a nightmare in
hell.
|
| 00:43:56 | Is it the same for a guy?
|
| 00:43:57 | >> Well, you know, no, it's
worse for a girl.
|
| 00:44:01 | >> It's worse for a girl.
|
| 00:44:04 | Did the girls throw themselves
at you?
|
| 00:44:08 | >> They didn't, but I never had
problems with girls.
|
| 00:44:11 | >> One a day.
|
| 00:44:13 | >> Right, one a day.
|
| 00:44:14 | I'm ron jeremy.
|
| 00:44:17 | Didn't have much effect.
|
| 00:44:19 | I'm sure there were some women
that weren't attracted to me
because I was heavier.
|
| 00:44:22 | But once I started comedy at 20,
first two years I put on 50
00 in the
morning every night.
|
| 00:44:33 | >> Maybe it was the anxiety.
|
| 00:44:36 | >> But I felt great about it.
|
| 00:44:38 | The change for me, the reason
that I did it, this only works
for me, not saying anybody else,
I approach it like an addiction.
|
| 00:44:46 | I wish I could have had a sex
addiction.
|
| 00:44:49 | That would be exciting on many
levels.
|
| 00:44:51 | But nobody ever sees someone
eating cookies and says I want
to be with him.
|
| 00:44:54 | >> That's true.
|
| 00:44:57 | >> But nonetheless, I approach
it like an addiction and because
I do, it's very serious and it's
black and white.
|
| 00:45:12 | It's not gray.
|
| 00:45:12 | >> Tell me the story of your
son's brick.
|
| 00:45:16 | >> Oh, dear.
|
| 00:45:17 | >> Tell me about that.
|
| 00:45:19 | >> I'm jewish.
|
| 00:45:20 | I didn't know -- my son was
circumcised.
|
| 00:45:30 | The moil gave me a little pouch
and he said it's your son's
foreskin.
|
| 00:45:34 | >> Is that a souvenir?
|
| 00:45:36 | >> No, they tell you that you
should bury it in some place
that means a lot.
|
| 00:45:41 | >> Why?
|
| 00:45:42 | >> I don't know.
|
| 00:45:42 | I just was told.
|
| 00:45:45 | You just sort of go along with
it.
|
| 00:45:47 | The problem is, it was only
three characters.
|
| 00:45:49 | >> So what happened?
|
| 00:45:51 | >> It's like jewish halloween.
|
| 00:46:00 | Anyhow, at that time I was new
to l.a.
|
| 00:46:02 | I didn't have a sacred place
where I wanted to bury it.
|
| 00:46:06 | So one day I was walking down
electric parade is ending.
|
| 00:46:12 | Come to disneyland now.
|
| 00:46:14 | My wife and kid were out of town
and I said, I'm going to
disneyland, see the electric
parade and go to -- listen to
what I did.
|
| 00:46:22 | I said, I will go to every land,
have something to eat and when i
get done I will throw it over at
pirates of the caribbean and i
will be healthy thinking that
would change it in honor of my
son.
|
| 00:46:35 | Long story short, I started
eating in every land.
|
| 00:46:38 | When you're an adult by yourself
in disneyland it's creepy.
|
| 00:46:42 | >> That's true.
|
| 00:46:43 | It comes off that way, yeah.
|
| 00:46:45 | >> It was a lunchback of notre
dame area eating a giant turkey
leg -- like a giant one.
|
| 00:46:51 | This family's looking at me.
|
| 00:46:53 | I just thought, I have to go
now.
|
| 00:46:57 | I went to sleeping beauty's
castle, apped a rock in it and
"when you wish upon a star"
which I rocked my son to and
boom.
|
| 00:47:08 | If you go to sleeping beauty's
castle, say hello to my son's
foreskin.
|
| 00:47:13 | >> Don't go anywhere.
|
| 00:50:25 | >> Jack, you're a [ bleep ],
mother [ bleep ], my
grandmother's broach is missing.
|
| 00:50:30 | I could not replace this item.
|
| 00:50:32 | How would you feel if something
you cared about was missing?
|
| 00:50:36 | You don't [ bleep ] anything.
|
| 00:50:38 | You know that?
|
| 00:50:38 | >> My baseball cards.
|
| 00:50:40 | >> You see that?
|
| 00:50:41 | It's not so funny now.
|
| 00:50:44 | >> That was jeff
susi essman.
|
| 00:50:49 | She's always calling you a
fat --
>> yes.
|
| 00:50:52 | >> Does it bother you at all?
|
| 00:50:54 | I know it's comedy.
|
| 00:50:55 | >> There are two levels to it.
|
| 00:50:57 | Number one, it doesn't bother me
because it's funny and I get
paid a lot.
|
| 00:51:03 | The other aspect is if I don't
want to be called fat anymore, i
have a choice.
|
| 00:51:09 | >> What's the choice?
|
| 00:51:10 | >> Lose weight.
|
| 00:51:12 | There you go.
|
| 00:51:13 | >> Let's ask suzy if she enjoys
calling you a fat [ bleep ].
|
| 00:51:20 | You're on the phone.
|
| 00:51:21 | >> Caller: A do I enjoy it?
|
| 00:51:23 | I enjoy yelling and screaming at
him.
|
| 00:51:25 | It doesn't have to be fat.
|
| 00:51:27 | If he loses weight, he acts like
such a jerk half the time on the
show -- his character, not him
in real life, that I enjoy
screaming at him and larry.
|
| 00:51:37 | If it's not fat it will be
something else.
|
| 00:51:40 | >> Where will the rage come
from?
|
| 00:51:43 | >> My rage is not at his fat but
at his behavior.
|
| 00:51:47 | >> Susie is not like that.
|
| 00:51:53 | >> She's not.
|
| 00:51:57 | >> Were there more doughnuts at
the craft table when you were
there?
|
| 00:52:00 | >> More?
|
| 00:52:01 | >> When you were around in your
sugar phase --
>> there was probably a lack of
them when I was in the sugar
phase.
|
| 00:52:07 | I would think the crew would be
walking in going, what happened
to the doughnuts?
|
| 00:52:11 | Where are the cookies?
|
| 00:52:13 | Who took the ho-hoes?
|
| 00:52:15 | >> When jeff was in the sugar
phase and somebody would say,
where's jeff, we'd know where to
find him.
|
| 00:52:22 | >> That's the truth.
|
| 00:52:24 | >> Susie, jeff's character
cheated on you this season.
|
| 00:52:28 | >> I know.
|
| 00:52:29 | >> What do you think about that?
|
| 00:52:31 | You have a way about you that i
think would prevent a man from
cheating on you.
|
| 00:52:36 | He did it anyway.
|
| 00:52:37 | >> And he got away with it with
lies and deception and
mendacity, twice.
|
| 00:52:44 | Who's to say I'm not cheating on
him with the pool boy.
|
| 00:52:47 | >> Oh, baby.
|
| 00:52:48 | Are you?
|
| 00:52:48 | >> That's my secret.
|
| 00:52:50 | I don't have to tell jeff
everything.
|
| 00:52:51 | >> Oh, dear god.
|
| 00:52:52 | Now you're going into
pretendland with your character?
|
| 00:52:56 | That's what you need, enjoy.
|
| 00:52:59 | Why do I keep looking up like
she's up there?
|
| 00:53:01 | >> She's upstairs.
|
| 00:53:03 | >> She's everywhere.
|
| 00:53:04 | >> You're doing a fantastic job
on the show.
|
| 00:53:06 | >> Thank you.
|
| 00:53:07 | >> Everybody loves the show.
|
| 00:53:09 | People stop susie and ask her to
get on the phone -- tell them.
|
| 00:53:13 | >> Jeff knows.
|
| 00:53:14 | >> I have been with her when
people ask her to scream at
them.
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| 00:53:19 | Will you scream obscenities at
me?
|
| 00:53:22 | Imagine that.
|
| 00:53:22 | Hey, call me a fat so-and-so.
|
| 00:53:25 | Call me, whatever.
|
| 00:53:27 | It's like, really?
|
| 00:53:29 | >> When they see us together,
they're just freaked out.
|
| 00:53:33 | Jeff and I will be out to
incidenter in the city,
having -- dinner in the city,
having a nice time and people
can't agree that the greenes are
so civil to one another.
|
| 00:53:43 | >> How about the other day
looking at apartments?
|
| 00:53:45 | >> I know.
|
| 00:53:47 | >> You two are just going to go
into the sun .
|
| 00:53:52 | >> She came with me.
|
| 00:53:54 | People were weirded out that we
were moving into their building.
|
| 00:53:57 | >> If you're in new york friday
or saturday catch jeff
headlining at carolines.
|
| 00:54:05 | The new book "my
carrying the weight
"
|
| 00:00:02 | Tunes in to cable shows and sees
some clips from this will
probably get the impression, the
accurate impression that the
republicans are not involved in
this summit in order to
seriously negotiate.
|
| 00:00:10 | There are two fundamental points
we have to get straight here.
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| 00:00:14 | One, the most effective way to
control costs and provide better
he care for americans was
taken off the table from the
get-go months and months ago and
that is universal single payer.
|
| 00:00:24 | That is what the rest of the
world enjoys but we can't have
it here.
|
| 00:00:29 | It was taken off the table.
|
| 00:00:32 | The second point is the
republicans here, not only want
health care legislation to fail,
not only want president obama
and his administration to fail,
they want government to fail.
|
| 00:00:42 | They have made a short-term
political calculation that is in
their best interest that nothing
happen in government.
|
| 00:00:49 | Whether it's health care,
stimulus, job creation, anything
else, their answer is no,
because they want this
government to fail.
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| 00:00:58 | >> I hear you, ron.
|
| 00:00:59 | Maxine, I'll call you maxine, is
that okay?
|
| 00:01:02 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:01:02 | >> Maxine, do you agree with ron
they want the government to
fail?
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| 00:01:06 | >> I really do.
|
| 00:01:08 | He stated it so well.
|
| 00:01:09 | I agree with him 100%.
|
| 00:01:11 | They didn't come to the summit
today because they wanted to be
in a bipartisan effort to try
and find a way to provide health
care insurance for americans and
all those millions who are
uninsured.
|
| 00:01:24 | They came today because the
television cameras were going to
be there, they were going to
cover it and they thought they
may as well get in on the act.
|
| 00:01:30 | They came with the idea that
they were going to stick to
their strategy and plan that the
democrats would have to scra
this and start all over again in
order to have any kind of
bipartisan effort.
|
| 00:01:40 | They know that's not going to
happen.
|
| 00:01:44 | And they came with their props.
|
| 00:01:48 | They had the old legislation
with all of their 1,100 pages or
so to show that they could
continue to say, see all of this
that they put into their health
care plan.
|
| 00:02:01 | They just want to take over, the
government wants to take over,
obama care, all of that.
|
| 00:02:04 | >> There is that fear, the
fearmongering.
|
| 00:02:06 | Obama got a bit tough with the
republicans.
|
| 00:02:08 | Watch this.
|
| 00:02:09 | >> To this point, the
republicans have had 24 minutes,
the democrats 52 minutes.
|
| 00:02:13 | Let's try to have as much
balance as we can.
|
| 00:02:16 | >> You're right, there was an
imbalance on the opening
statements because I'm the
president.
|
| 00:02:21 | >> I love that.
|
| 00:02:22 | Don't we need more moments like
that, lizz?
|
| 00:02:25 | >> Yes, but there's nothing more
offensive to me than hearing men
who have -- and mostly men, who
have graduate degrees and some
doctorate degrees complaining
they have to read too much.
|
| 00:02:40 | Maxine, correct me if I'm wrong,
isn't the tenet of your job to
read things and write things?
|
| 00:02:48 | >> All the time.
|
| 00:02:49 | You've got to read, read, read.
|
| 00:02:50 | I'm five hours between
california and washington.
|
| 00:02:52 | I read all the way there, all
the way back.
|
| 00:02:54 | It's hard to keep up, but you
have to read.
|
| 00:02:57 | You have to keep up.
|
| 00:02:58 | >> Maxine, we're not going to
get the public option in this
bill.
|
| 00:03:01 | That's dead, right?
|
| 00:03:03 | >> Yes, yes.
|
| 00:03:05 | >> Is that a failure on obama's
part?
|
| 00:03:07 | How do we construe this now?
|
| 00:03:09 | >> He did not put the public
option in his plan.
|
| 00:03:13 | As a matter of fact, he never
got out front even when he was
saying that he was for public
option.
|
| 00:03:20 | As you know, a lot of us,
particularly the progressives in
the house, are for a public
option.
|
| 00:03:24 | We've been fighting for it.
|
| 00:03:27 | We want it very badly.
|
| 00:03:28 | We're disappointed we won't have
public option in the plan he's
proposing.
|
| 00:03:31 | And that's going to cause
problems on the floor.
|
| 00:03:33 | There will be some people that
won't vote for it because it
doesn't have national exchanges
or public option.
|
| 00:03:42 | >> Okay, everybody.
|
| 00:03:43 | Stay right where you are.
|
| 00:03:44 | We'll be back in 60 seconds.
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| 00:04:50 | >>> Okay, let's turn to another
sarah
palin, former florida governor
jeb bush made some interesting
comments about the former alaska
governor.
|
| 00:04:57 | Watch this.
|
| 00:05:00 | >> My personal belief is that
for governor palin to be a
successful candidate for higher
office, she needs to take this
charisma she has and also add to
it some depth of understanding
of the complexity of life that
we're living in today.
|
| 00:05:20 | >> He should know, his brother
is george bush.
|
| 00:05:22 | >> And very complex.
|
| 00:05:24 | >> Hello.
|
| 00:05:25 | Let me ask you, maxine, is this
a backhanded compliment or a
straightforward dis?
|
| 00:05:32 | >> Well, it's about what most
people are saying about sarah
palin.
|
| 00:05:38 | She's entertaining.
|
| 00:05:38 | She's rallying the crowds.
|
| 00:05:39 | She makes for good theater.
|
| 00:05:41 | All of that.
|
| 00:05:42 | But it's not going to translate
into the presidency.
|
| 00:05:48 | Simply because the consensus is
that she does not run deeply
enough.
|
| 00:05:55 | That she is not well prepared.
|
| 00:05:56 | That she simply is not ready to
be the president of the united
states.
|
| 00:06:00 | I think you will hear that kind
of conversation going on about
her all the time.
|
| 00:06:04 | >> Right.
|
| 00:06:06 | Ron, palin's spokeswoman quit.
|
| 00:06:07 | Do you know why she might have
quit?
|
| 00:06:10 | >> Well, she said she wanted to
spend more time with her family
and perhaps she did.
|
| 00:06:15 | But maybe she thought she was
involved in a legitimate
political movement or political
campaign for the presidency.
|
| 00:06:22 | And maybe she came to the
realizations the person she was
backing, working for, really was
totally unqualified and unsuited
to that job as jeb bush
suggested.
|
| 00:06:32 | >> What do you think?
|
| 00:06:33 | >> When you sign on with sarah
palin, after 10 seconds of being
around her, you
that.
|
| 00:06:40 | Why did it take this woman so
long to quit?
|
| 00:06:42 | I look at -- listen to jeb bush
and what I hear him saying is
wow, the thing about sarah palin
is we could just harness all
that charisma and sort of thrust
it onto a carcass with a brain,
that would be awesome.
|
| 00:06:59 | >> You know, sometimes I wonder
if this kind of thing we do
about sarah palin helps her,
calling her dumb and implying
that --
>> I don't have to call her
dumb.
|
| 00:07:11 | >> I know.
|
| 00:07:14 | But I wonder because we are
having so much fun on this
woman.
|
| 00:07:17 | I don't know, I'm developing a
stutter as a result of it.
|
| 00:07:20 | You know, ron, the gop loves to
bring your father, ronald
reagan, into any discussion
whenever possible.
|
| 00:07:27 | So it's no surprise they dug up
some of his comments from 1961
to support their opposition to
health care reform.
|
| 00:07:33 | Let's listen.
|
| 00:07:35 | >> One of the traditional
methods of imposing statism or
socialism on a people has been
by way of medicine.
|
| 00:07:43 | It's very easy to disguise a
medical program as a
humanitarian project.
|
| 00:07:47 | From here it's a short step to
all the rest of socialism.
|
| 00:07:50 | >> Wasn't your father talking
about medicare?
|
| 00:07:53 | >> Yes, he was, what would
become medicare and he went on
to say if you socialize the
doctor, you'll socialize the
patient and talked about the
doctors being told where to
live.
|
| 00:08:04 | Guess what?
|
| 00:08:06 | We've had medicare now for
almost 50 years and none of
those things have happened.
|
| 00:08:11 | My father happened to have been
wrong in his assessment there.
|
| 00:08:13 | But it's no secret the
republicans like to quote from
it.
|
| 00:08:17 | >> He was a groundbreaker in
promoting the socialist agenda,
ron.
|
| 00:08:20 | >> Way ahead of it.
|
| 00:08:22 | He stayed away from the death
panels, though.
|
| 00:08:25 | >> The interesting thing about
ronald reagan is he really
believed that.
|
| 00:08:31 | You know what I'm saying?
|
| 00:08:32 | He wasn't a phony or fake about
it.
|
| 00:08:36 | He really believed that and i
have the greatest respect for
because he is
philosophically different.
|
| 00:08:42 | And he's not afraid to say so.
|
| 00:08:43 | >> And takes a lot of flak from
the right wing because he
doesn't go lock step with his
father.
|
| 00:08:47 | It's as if a man isn't allowed
to think for himself.
|
| 00:08:51 | It's ridiculous.
|
| 00:08:52 | But the gop is always trotting
out ronald reagan.
|
| 00:08:54 | Can't they come up with
something new?
|
| 00:08:56 | This was 50 years ago.
|
| 00:08:58 | >> Who would they come up with?
|
| 00:09:00 | >> They love him and every
building in this country is
going to be named after him.
|
| 00:09:06 | >> Which means it will also be
named after me, which I love.
|
| 00:09:10 | >> Yes, that's true.
|
| 00:09:13 | >> I forgot about that.
|
| 00:09:14 | But in the recording, reagan
says doctors are going to be
told where to live, where to
practice.
|
| 00:09:19 | He was the original
fearmongerer, too.
|
| 00:09:25 | >> Hate to say it.
|
| 00:09:26 | >> Yeah, but he was wrong, as we
now see.
|
| 00:09:29 | Rush limbaugh can quote this all
he wants but he's just reminding
people that my father in this
instance was wrong.
|
| 00:09:35 | >> Rush limbaugh is no ronald
reagan.
|
| 00:09:36 | >> That's for sure.
|
| 00:09:37 | >> Thanks, everybody.
|
| 00:09:37 | Very interesting.
|
| 00:09:38 | Next up, giuliana and bill
rancic join me next.
|
| 00:09:40 | So stay put.
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| 00:12:24 | >>> That was scary.
|
| 00:12:25 | You never want to hear your
doctor say, I've never seen that
before.
|
| 00:12:29 | >> No, that's not good.
|
| 00:12:35 | >> Usual I the -- usually the
uterus is in the middle?
|
| 00:12:39 | How weird is that.
|
| 00:12:41 | Immediately I was like, we can't
have a baby.
|
| 00:12:43 | This is the problem.
|
| 00:12:44 | >> She's the beautiful managing
editor and anchor for "e news"
and he's the winner of the first
season of "apprentice," probably
the best-looking one on there,
besides donald, of course.
|
| 00:12:53 | Together they make married life
look easy.
|
| 00:12:56 | I guess they're magicians.
|
| 00:13:00 | On their hit reality series
"giuliana and bill" on the style
network.
|
| 00:13:03 | Joining me now are giuliana and
bill rancic.
|
| 00:13:05 | Thank you for being here, guys.
|
| 00:13:06 | You guys have been trying to get
pregnant this season and I see
the cameras are right up there.
|
| 00:13:09 | A little intimate.
|
| 00:13:11 | Katie couric did have a
colonoscopy on television.
|
| 00:13:16 | We're sort of used to it at this
point.
|
| 00:13:18 | Are you?
|
| 00:13:19 | >> If highway is did it, I can
do it.
|
| 00:13:21 | A lot of people called me -- my
mom said, must you show people
your uterus on television?
|
| 00:13:28 | And I said if it will help
people, why not?
|
| 00:13:35 | There's a stigma attached with
having a baby the unnatural way.
|
| 00:13:39 | But the way we feel is, it
doesn't matter if you have a
baby through a surrogate mother,
if you adopt a baby.
|
| 00:13:45 | At the end of the day, you have
a baby.
|
| 00:13:47 | >> What about the stork, have
you considered that?
|
| 00:13:51 | >> The stork?
|
| 00:13:52 | >> Go ahead, bill.
|
| 00:13:54 | >> It's amazing how many couples
out there it affects.
|
| 00:13:57 | And how many people have
identified with what we're going
through on the show.
|
| 00:14:01 | I don't think a day has gone by
in the last two months where
someone hasn't come up to us,
whether in an airport or walking
across the street saying I'm
going through the same thing or
my sister is going through the
same thing.
|
| 00:14:12 | So a lot of people have been
identifying with what we're
sharing on the show.
|
| 00:14:16 | >> Do you like that when people
come up and say I've seen your
uterus on tv?
|
| 00:14:19 | >> Only when they compliment and
say, what a beautiful uterus.
|
| 00:14:25 | >> The most italian uterus
they've ever seen.
|
| 00:14:28 | >> It's a little funny at first,
but people used to come up to us
for different reasons.
|
| 00:14:31 | I like them coming up to us for
this reason, saying thank you
for doing this.
|
| 00:14:35 | 1 In 7 women has problems in
getting pregnant.
|
| 00:14:39 | >> It's an age thing.
|
| 00:14:40 | >> It is for the most part,
right.
|
| 00:14:45 | >> For couples 35 or older, you
have a 5% to 7% chance of you
getting pregnant per month or
-- of tussly conceiving a baby.
|
| 00:15:02 | So when you're 35 years old, the
deck is stacked against you.
|
| 00:15:05 | >> When you're 20, you can get
pregnant like that.
|
| 00:15:07 | >> And they never want to.
|
| 00:15:08 | That's the irony of it.
|
| 00:15:09 | >> So we are -- and that's what
I THOUGHT, I WAS IN MY 20s AND I
Thought, my gosh, I would look
at these women in hollywood,
these actresses and I would say,
when I'm 35, 40, I'll pop out a
couple twins, too.
|
| 00:15:20 | Then I reached 35 years old and
I realized this is very
difficult.
|
| 00:15:25 | >> A LOT OF WOMEN IN THEIR 50s
AND 60s ARE HAVING BABIES, TOO.
|
| 00:15:27 | >> They are.
|
| 00:15:29 | They're using surrogates, by the
way.
|
| 00:15:32 | >> What about a surrogate?
|
| 00:15:33 | >> We're not at that point yet.
|
| 00:15:35 | Right now we're starting our
first round of ivf next week.
|
| 00:15:41 | So we'll see what happens.
|
| 00:15:43 | >> You were on "the view" this
morning with me, both of you.
|
| 00:15:46 | And people are buzzing.
|
| 00:15:47 | After you left, there was buzz,
buzz, buzz about your reluctance
to gain weight.
|
| 00:15:53 | Let me show people what
happened.
|
| 00:15:57 | >> My doctor recommended that i
gain weight in order to start
ovulating consistently.
|
| 00:16:01 | You know --
>> does he say like 15, 20
pounds?
|
| 00:16:06 | >> He said 5 to 10 pounds which
I know isn't a big deal and if
you want to have a baby you
should do whatever it takes.
|
| 00:16:14 | But I had to bite that bullet.
|
| 00:16:17 | I finally did gain five pounds.
|
| 00:16:18 | >> You realize if you get
pregnant you're going to gain
weight.
|
| 00:16:21 | >> Of course.
|
| 00:16:23 | But here's the thing I look at
all these women who are thin and
get pregnant.
|
| 00:16:27 | Look at nicole richie, she
weighs 80 pounds.
|
| 00:16:31 | >> She was considered anorexic
at some point.
|
| 00:16:35 | >> Look at angelina jolie who is
half my size, she carried twins.
|
| 00:16:40 | So a see a lot of these women, i
know a lot of people who have
been very thin and gotten
pregnant.
|
| 00:16:44 | If infertility were that easy,
if the answer was to gain five
pounds, infertility wouldn't be
a problem.
|
| 00:16:51 | That's not the real problem.
|
| 00:16:52 | And unfortunately we work in a
very shallow business,
especially I do.
|
| 00:16:58 | We're not doing hard-hitting
news, we're critiquing fashion
and the way people look.
|
| 00:17:04 | So it's a tougher bullet to
bite.
|
| 00:17:09 | He doesn't agree, of course.
|
| 00:17:10 | >> What do you think, bill?
|
| 00:17:10 | >> Is that a factor?
|
| 00:17:12 | 100%.
|
| 00:17:12 | Weight is a factor.
|
| 00:17:13 | When you exercise a lot, that
puts a lot of stress on your
body.
|
| 00:17:16 | Working the hours that she
works, you know, you've got to
at some point slow the train
down because your body is saying
you're not going to be able to
have a baby with this pace and
lifestyle.
|
| 00:17:30 | >> But I have.
|
| 00:17:30 | I have.
|
| 00:17:31 | >> But she has, but she's
reluctant.
|
| 00:17:32 | >> Very reluctant.
|
| 00:17:33 | >> 35 Years I've been busting my
butt, working hard.
|
| 00:17:36 | I don't want to stop.
|
| 00:17:41 | >> That's the dilemma that women
face because, you know, it's a
man's world.
|
| 00:17:48 | Really it is.
|
| 00:17:49 | It has to be, because who else
gets ivf treatments and hormone
shots and everything else?
|
| 00:17:57 | Women have to go through that.
|
| 00:17:58 | >> He's got the hard job in
this.
|
| 00:18:00 | >> We had a guy on today, his
sperm count was like the worst.
|
| 00:18:02 | Yet his wife had to go through
four years of this treatment.
|
| 00:18:05 | >> Isn't that incredible?
|
| 00:18:06 | >> It's a bad deal.
|
| 00:18:07 | >> I think, giuliana, you might
have to put some pounds on.
|
| 00:18:09 | >> We're going to take her out
for a big bowl of pasta.
|
| 00:18:11 | >> You know how to lose weight.
|
| 00:18:14 | >> You gain ten, you lose ten
the next month.
|
| 00:18:16 | >> I know, I know.
|
| 00:18:17 | Everyone at home likes to e-mail
and say, are you pregnant?
|
| 00:18:20 | You look fat today.
|
| 00:18:24 | >> I know.
|
| 00:18:25 | Stay right there.
|
| 00:18:26 | I want to get your take on some
of the hot topics when we come
back.
|
| 00:21:54 | >>> On "american idol" last
night, it was so sad that one of
the girls -- it was girls night
and the comments that were made,
it would make you want to kill
yourself.
|
| 00:22:07 | And some of the judges, I don't
think they're qualified to even
judge.
|
| 00:22:11 | >> That was patti labelle
talking about the qualifications
or lack thereof of the "american
idol" judges.
|
| 00:22:16 | Back with me to discuss her
remarks are giuliana and bill
rancic.
|
| 00:22:20 | Now, which judge do you think
she was referring to?
|
| 00:22:23 | >> Probably ellen.
|
| 00:22:25 | I would think she was talking
about ellen.
|
| 00:22:27 | I disagree.
|
| 00:22:29 | I don't think you have to
certainly be on a stage
entertaining people.
|
| 00:22:34 | I think that's what she was
implying is that they're not big
entertainers like she is.
|
| 00:22:37 | But I don't think you need to be
a pop star or singer to critique
these people.
|
| 00:22:42 | A lot of them are music
producers.
|
| 00:22:46 | They get the industry.
|
| 00:22:48 | >> When you go on that show, she
was saying some of those people
would want to kill themselves
after hearing those comments.
|
| 00:22:52 | They know what they're signing
up for and that's part of the
deal.
|
| 00:22:56 | >> But if you don't know
music -- I don't know music.
|
| 00:22:59 | I don't know what I would say.
|
| 00:23:02 | You're too pitchy.
|
| 00:23:03 | I don't know what they mean by
that when they say you're too
pitchy.
|
| 00:23:06 | I know what they say when they
say you're too bitchy.
|
| 00:23:10 | I get that.
|
| 00:23:12 | >> But simon, randy, they were
in the music industry.
|
| 00:23:20 | It doesn't mean they're eloquent
enough to critique people.
|
| 00:23:23 | They can just go she sounds good
or bad.
|
| 00:23:26 | But they're professionals.
|
| 00:23:27 | >> Ellen is in show business.
|
| 00:23:29 | She sees a lot of talent.
|
| 00:23:31 | I'm trying to make sense of it.
|
| 00:23:33 | >> I don't really care.
|
| 00:23:35 | >> But she kind of represents --
>> it's hard to get my thing
going for this one.
|
| 00:23:42 | >> What I like about ellen is
she represents the viewer.
|
| 00:23:44 | She represents the person buying
the album.
|
| 00:23:49 | >> Okay.
|
| 00:23:53 | Now, the girl that got kicked
off "the bachelor" what is her
name, she was having an affair
with the producer.
|
| 00:23:58 | She now allegedly has a sex
tape.
|
| 00:24:00 | She denies it.
|
| 00:24:01 | Do you believe her?
|
| 00:24:03 | >> I'm surprised it took this
long for that story to come out.
|
| 00:24:05 | All these girls immediately
within a week --
>> it worked for paris and kim
kardashian, their careers went
through roof.
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| 00:24:20 | >> I'm surprised she's not one
of the tiger mistresses.
|
| 00:24:21 | Yeah, you can't really believe
this girl, can you?
|
| 00:24:23 | She claimed she didn't have an
affair with that guy either and
all fingers are pointing to the
fact that she did.
|
| 00:24:28 | I didn't like how she attacked
the host.
|
| 00:24:34 | She implied that he was --
>> it's good television.
|
| 00:24:36 | >> Of course.
|
| 00:24:38 | >> Now, just before we go,
you're an italian girl from
italy.
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| 00:24:41 | What part of italy?
|
| 00:24:42 | >> Naples.
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| 00:24:46 | I was born there.
|
| 00:24:47 | >> What about these "jersey
shore" kids?
|
| 00:24:51 | >> Their show is very
entertaining, we're not going to
take it away from them.
|
| 00:24:56 | But these are not realic
tallians.
|
| 00:24:57 | >> They're italian-americans,
80% wise.
|
| 00:24:59 | >> But 10th generation.
|
| 00:25:02 | They probably haven't been to
italy.
|
| 00:25:04 | No offense, but I want people to
know
when you go to italy, this is
not the people you meet on the
street in milan and rome.
|
| 00:25:10 | The fact that they paint their
garage the italian flag, I can
see why real italians don't --
have a bad taste in their mouth.
|
| 00:25:20 | >> I don't think they're in on
the joke.
|
| 00:25:22 | >> That's the problem.
|
| 00:25:23 | Exactly.
|
| 00:25:25 | But they don't care.
|
| 00:25:25 | They're making $10,000 an
episode.
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| 00:25:27 | Thanks, guys.
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| 00:25:28 | We'll be right back.
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| 00:27:56 | >>> A trainer at seaworld in
orlando died when a killer whale
grabbed her and pulled her under
the water in front of shocked
onlookers.
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| 00:28:06 | A disturbing tragedy, but is it
shocking really?
|
| 00:28:09 | They're called killer whales.
|
| 00:28:12 | Take a killer whale out of the
ocean and put him in a small
tank and regardless of
precaution, there's always a
clear danger at hand.
|
| 00:28:17 | Joining me to talk about this is
jane velez-mitchell.
|
| 00:28:19 | >> Hey, joy.
|
| 00:28:20 | >> What happened there that day?
|
| 00:28:21 | The other day?
|
| 00:28:24 | >> Well, this animal lashed out
and grabbed the trainer by the
waist and tossed her around and
this poor woman died.
|
| 00:28:30 | It's a terrible tragedy and the
sad part is, it can happen
again.
|
| 00:28:35 | It's happened many times before
and it will happen again.
|
| 00:28:37 | And the underlying problem is
that these animals are kept in
captivity.
|
| 00:28:42 | That means captive.
|
| 00:28:43 | That's not fun for people and
it's torture for the animals.
|
| 00:28:47 | Remember, this precious animal
was born free in the waters off
iceland.
|
| 00:28:53 | It had many, many thousands of
miles to roam.
|
| 00:28:59 | Quayles can travel up to 100
miles a day.
|
| 00:29:01 | It was captured in 1983 and put
in a tiny tank.
|
| 00:29:03 | For more than a quarter of a
century, it's been going around
in circles in what would be the
human equivalent of a bathtub.
|
| 00:29:12 | >> The thing about it is they
make a lot of money at seaworld,
it's a major attraction.
|
| 00:29:18 | So that's the problem.
|
| 00:29:20 | Isn't that the problem?
|
| 00:29:21 | It's always about money.
|
| 00:29:22 | >> Any time you see animal
exploitation, follow the money.
|
| 00:29:25 | Come on, its tail is splashing
the kids.
|
| 00:29:28 | That's science?
|
| 00:29:30 | >> This is not the first time
that this whale has killed
somebody.
|
| 00:29:34 | He's a serial killer.
|
| 00:29:34 | Even though the first two times
were accidents, this sounded
like he was vicious.
|
| 00:29:43 | >> If you were kept in a bathtub
for 25 years, wouldn't you be
angry?
|
| 00:29:46 | >> Yes, I would.
|
| 00:29:47 | >> Basically that's what it
amounts to.
|
| 00:29:50 | >> But this was an accident
waiting to happen, right?
|
| 00:29:53 | >> I believe so.
|
| 00:29:54 | And I believe these animals
should be set free.
|
| 00:29:57 | You know, there are sanctuaries
for whales created around the
world in brazil and chile.
|
| 00:30:04 | Thousands of miles o coastline
that are being created for these
whales.
|
| 00:30:09 | I think it's practical to
release this whale back -- give
it back its freedom and the
others like it.
|
| 00:30:13 | >> How are they treated at sea
world?
|
| 00:30:15 | >> That depends on who you talk
to.
|
| 00:30:18 | If you think keeping an animal
in that kind of confinement is
okay, then it's okay.
|
| 00:30:27 | I don't think that's right.
|
| 00:30:28 | I think it's morally wrong.
|
| 00:30:29 | Any time you see animal torture,
it's about confinement, whether
it's a pig in a pig gestation
crate, billy the elephant kept
in the zoo in l.a.
|
| 00:30:39 | It's always about keeping them
confined and isolated.
|
| 00:30:41 | >> They don't really like that,
but children want to see the
animals.
|
| 00:30:44 | What about those dolphins?
|
| 00:30:46 | They seem happy.
|
| 00:30:49 | >> You know, we can't read into
the minds of these animals but
we can when they lash out the
way they do.
|
| 00:30:55 | This was an animal sending a
clear signal.
|
| 00:30:57 | Speaking, even though it cannot
speak human language, that it is
sick and tired of the conditions
in which it's living.
|
| 00:31:05 | >> Do you think this will change
the way seaworld does business
or captures the animals and uses
them as sideshows?
|
| 00:31:12 | I don't think it's going to
change, do you?
|
| 00:31:14 | >> It's all about the consumer.
|
| 00:31:15 | Animal exploitation is a
consumer issue.
|
| 00:31:20 | The consumers can make a change
by say thing is not acceptable
and we want a change.
|
| 00:31:25 | As far as educating a kid,
there's television.
|
| 00:31:27 | >> I hope they set this
particular whale free into the
ocean.
|
| 00:31:31 | There's no reason to kill this
animal.
|
| 00:31:36 | Because it's not like it's going
to cost the state money to throw
him into the ocean, right?
|
| 00:31:41 | Thank you very much, jane.
|
| 00:31:42 | As always, a pleasure to see
you.
|
| 00:31:43 | >> Thank you, joy.
|
| 00:31:44 | >> I want to turn to another
story now.
|
| 00:31:48 | Senate majority leader harry
reid made some comments on
monday that have caused quite a
stir.
|
| 00:31:52 | Take a look.
|
| 00:31:55 | >> I have met with some people
while I was home, dealing with
domestic abuse.
|
| 00:32:03 | It has gotten out of hand.
|
| 00:32:04 | Why?
|
| 00:32:05 | Men don't have jobs.
|
| 00:32:06 | Women don't have jobs either,
but women aren't abusive.
|
| 00:32:08 | Most of the time.
|
| 00:32:10 | Men, when they're out of work,
tend to become abusive.
|
| 00:32:14 | >> Does harry reid have a point
or was he using this anecdote to
get the jobs bill passed?
|
| 00:32:24 | Here to discuss this is author
of "give me liberty" naomi wolf
and blogger liz benjamin.
|
| 00:32:30 | What do you think about his
statements, naomi?
|
| 00:32:34 | >> I mean, they're statistically
accurate.
|
| 00:32:37 | Domestic violence goes up when
people are suffering from
joblessness.
|
| 00:32:42 | I don't want to say ever
understandably, but
all the stressors, alcoholism,
you know, violence against
chirp, it all goes up when
people lose their jobs.
|
| 00:32:49 | It was a really stupid thing to
say and he said it very poorly.
|
| 00:32:52 | >> Why was it stupid to say?
|
| 00:32:55 | >> Here's why.
|
| 00:32:58 | Apart from that statistical blip
about joblessness, the
stereotype of the lower income
guy beating his girlfriend or
wife is just a stereotype.
|
| 00:33:08 | There are abusers at every
demographic level.
|
| 00:33:13 | The guy who is going to wall
street isn't exempt from
having --
>> so you think that statement
exempted these other types,
these white collar types?
|
| 00:33:21 | >> Yeah, and it was kind of
offensive to unemployed men.
|
| 00:33:29 | >> Why can't it be a white
collared guy unemployed hitting
his wife?
|
| 00:33:35 | >> It was heavy handed.
|
| 00:33:38 | And it was also -- it's not true
that women don't abuse.
|
| 00:33:42 | Women tend to abuse children,
men tend to abuse women.
|
| 00:33:48 | >> The powerful against the
powerless.
|
| 00:33:51 | >> It's never helpful to
stigmatize one group and point a
finger at them.
|
| 00:33:54 | >> What do you think?
|
| 00:33:56 | >> Just an ill-advised thing to
say, that much I agree about it.
|
| 00:33:59 | I don't know about the
statistics but it makes sense
logically, if people are home
more it gives them more
opportunity to be mean to one
another.
|
| 00:34:06 | But he didn't need to go there.
|
| 00:34:11 | There are a thousand other
anecdotes he could have used.
|
| 00:34:15 | It's just not wise.
|
| 00:34:16 | >> He's kind of loose lipped
lately.
|
| 00:34:22 | >> He has been loose lipped for
quite sometime, yes.
|
| 00:34:29 | >> I'll tell you,
one person who doesn't agree
with reid is former presidential
candidate fred thompson, who
responded on twitter.
|
| 00:34:33 | The new way for senators to talk
to each other and people in
politics.
|
| 00:34:37 | He wrote, jobless mean equals
domestic abuse?
|
| 00:34:38 | Is he saying we should be
reid after
the november election.
|
| 00:34:42 | Is he trying to be funny here?
|
| 00:34:43 | I feel like saying to him, fred,
don't do this.
|
| 00:34:45 | Don't do this at home.
|
| 00:34:47 | You're not a professional.
|
| 00:34:51 | >> He didn't say it on the floor
of an official capacity,
obviously, say it on twitter.
|
| 00:34:56 | It feels loose like you can get
away with a lot more.
|
| 00:34:59 | But in this instance, it's bad,
tasteless.
|
| 00:35:01 | He's trying to be provocative.
|
| 00:35:05 | It just fell flat.
|
| 00:35:06 | >> Speaking of domestic
violence, there's another case,
reports about a top aide to
governor -- new york governor
david paterson who is being
accused of violently assaulting
a woman.
|
| 00:35:19 | Tell me about that.
|
| 00:35:19 | >> I don't know where to begin
at this point.
|
| 00:35:25 | It's just the fallout has been
amazing.
|
| 00:35:28 | The story is shocking.
|
| 00:35:30 | In report, this very close aide
to governor paterson, the person
who is with him all the time,
with which this government means
more because he's legally blind.
|
| 00:35:36 | >> He used to be his driver.
|
| 00:35:37 | >> Correct.
|
| 00:35:39 | He's been with him about a
decade now.
|
| 00:35:42 | Allegedly assaulted a woman with
whom he had been living for
about four years.
|
| 00:35:47 | And that's not -- that's bad
enough.
|
| 00:35:51 | But the real problem is that
allegedly the governor spoke to
her the day before she was
supposed to be in court to press
the case, and worse, members of
the governor's own state police
security detail, a member of
that detail went to this woman
to talk to her about it, to talk
to her about it.
|
| 00:36:12 | And she said, in court, in her
testimony that she felt they
were trying to pressure her to
drop the case.
|
| 00:36:18 | >> Her lawyer said she had a
conversation with the governor
on the phone and the next day
the charges were dropped.
|
| 00:36:22 | >> She didn't show up to court.
|
| 00:36:23 | >> And then it was dropped?
|
| 00:36:26 | >> Correct.
|
| 00:36:27 | >> I smell a rat here and i
don't know which rat I'm
smelling yet.
|
| 00:36:32 | >> There's so many rats.
|
| 00:36:33 | If it's true, there's so many
layers of not just immorality
but conspiracy, witness
tampering.
|
| 00:36:40 | >> Obstruction of justice.
|
| 00:36:40 | >> We could talk about this
forever.
|
| 00:36:41 | But this is a hot story.
|
| 00:36:43 | Thank you very much for weighing
in.
|
| 00:36:44 | Next, the hilarious jeff garlin
joins me.
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| 00:40:12 | >>> I'm talking to my wife now.
|
| 00:40:13 | >> Big fat idiot.
|
| 00:40:22 | Tell your wife I'm an idiot.
|
| 00:40:23 | Write me a letter of apology.
|
| 00:40:28 | >> I will.
|
| 00:40:29 | >> That was a clip from "curb
your enthusiasm" with jeff
garlin,
who decided to reduce both his
waistline and carbon foot print
and began by eating an entire
package of cookie dough before
breakfast.
|
| 00:40:42 | His new book is called "my
carrying the weight
"
welcome, jeff.
|
| 00:40:46 | We go for the lowest common
denominator.
|
| 00:40:57 | >> I watched your last episode,
so I know what you're talking
about.
|
| 00:41:01 | >> Now, this is a lot about your
struggles with weight.
|
| 00:41:07 | >> It's not a how-to book.
|
| 00:41:11 | It's my struggles with losing
weight and there's the going
green aspect also.
|
| 00:41:14 | >> Right.
|
| 00:41:16 | You had a stroke at 37, which i
didn't know and.
|
| 00:41:18 | >> Yes, I did.
|
| 00:41:18 | >> You attended the longevity
center many times.
|
| 00:41:21 | >> Still go.
|
| 00:41:22 | >> And tried every weight loss
strategy known to man.
|
| 00:41:24 | >> Yes, except for atkins.
|
| 00:41:25 | Never did atkins.
|
| 00:41:26 | >> That's the one that would
work, probably.
|
| 00:41:28 | But you don't ever -- you seem
to not be able to get past a
level of weight, right?
|
| 00:41:31 | >> Yes, always.
|
| 00:41:33 | >> Why don't you just do the
stomach stapling or the banding,
those things they have out
there?
|
| 00:41:38 | >> Because I never was -- look,
I had a friend who weighed 500
pounds.
|
| 00:41:43 | He did one of those things.
|
| 00:41:45 | He's down to 220 now, I'm happy
for him.
|
| 00:41:48 | At my highest, I was 320.
|
| 00:41:50 | I mostly lingered in the 290
area.
|
| 00:41:52 | >> What should you be?
|
| 00:41:55 | >> I should be about 220.
|
| 00:41:56 | >> How tall are you?
|
| 00:42:00 | >> 6'1".
|
| 00:42:01 | >> You would be okay at 190.
|
| 00:42:02 | >> I would be look too thin.
|
| 00:42:03 | >> No, you wouldn't.
|
| 00:42:04 | >> Yes, I would.
|
| 00:42:09 | >> You would be lanky looking.
|
| 00:42:10 | >> But I wouldn't do that.
|
| 00:42:15 | Yeah, it just doesn't interest
me.
|
| 00:42:17 | >> What do you think about that
story of kevin smith, the
director who was kicked off of
the southwest airlines.
|
| 00:42:27 | Southwest airlines.
|
| 00:42:28 | >> I feel horrible for him, i
feel bad for him.
|
| 00:42:30 | Because you could be saying
about what jeff garlin.
|
| 00:42:31 | >> You don't look that big to
me.
|
| 00:42:34 | >> Because I lost a lot of
weight.
|
| 00:42:36 | >> How much have you lost?
|
| 00:42:37 | >> I don't know, to be honest
with you.
|
| 00:42:38 | I don't weigh myself anymore.
|
| 00:42:39 | >> You don't?
|
| 00:42:41 | >> No, no.
|
| 00:42:42 | >> Maybe you should.
|
| 00:42:43 | You're supposed to weigh
yourself.
|
| 00:42:46 | >> Who says?
|
| 00:42:48 | >> Because you want to check
your bmi and everything.
|
| 00:42:51 | >> Bmi schme-mi.
|
| 00:42:54 | To me, if I have to keep getting
new shirts and pants because
they look too big on me and i
have a lot of -- I feel great,
if my blood numbers are good
when I go to the doctor, what do
I worry about?
|
| 00:43:05 | >> So you don't have diabetes?
|
| 00:43:07 | >> I still do, but I'm about to
get checked again in a couple of
weeks.
|
| 00:43:13 | You always have it, I just goes
into hiding, if you will.
|
| 00:43:16 | It's ready to pop out again.
|
| 00:43:17 | >> You yo-yo a lot, don't you?
|
| 00:43:18 | >> No.
|
| 00:43:25 | Never was a yo-yoer.
|
| 00:43:27 | I got up to 320 and made my way
back down to 290.
|
| 00:43:32 | I THINK I'M IN THE 260s NOW.
|
| 00:43:35 | >> All right.
|
| 00:43:36 | Now, I was reading that you
bought a piece of chocolate
while waiting in line for
diabetes medicine.
|
| 00:43:39 | Is that the definition of a food
addict?
|
| 00:43:46 | >> Surely.
|
| 00:43:47 | You're picking up your diabetes
medicine and they say it's going
to be a few minutes.
|
| 00:43:54 | I'll be right back, there's a
chocolate shop down the street.
|
| 00:43:56 | Yes, I would say you have a
problem.
|
| 00:43:57 | >> I think so.
|
| 00:43:58 | >> Yes.
|
| 00:43:58 | And that's the last time by the
way I had chocolate.
|
| 00:43:59 | >> When was that, last week?
|
| 00:44:00 | >> No, it was -- I think it was
new year's, a year ago, 2008.
|
| 00:44:06 | >> That's good.
|
| 00:44:09 | It's been over a year with no
sugar.
|
| 00:44:11 | >> What else don't you eat?
|
| 00:44:13 | >> Fast food.
|
| 00:44:16 | Been over a year on fast food.
|
| 00:44:19 | No turkey, chicken, meat.
|
| 00:44:20 | >> What's wrong with turkey?
|
| 00:44:22 | >> I just don't want to eat it.
|
| 00:44:26 | It's not green to eat all that
stuff.
|
| 00:44:27 | >> You're in the green thing?
|
| 00:44:28 | >> Yeah, but it's on a lot of
levels.
|
| 00:44:31 | I was once shooting a film and i
remember I pass aid truck
with -- passed a truck with
chickens in little cages cramped
in there.
|
| 00:44:42 | And I saw a chicken after that,
mind you, but it stayed with me.
|
| 00:44:43 | That's been the easiest
transition.
|
| 00:44:47 | >> How did you get rid of sugar
cravings?
|
| 00:44:49 | >> Took me of two, three weeks
of not sleeping, having
headaches, going through
complete withdrawal.
|
| 00:45:00 | And now you can have cupcakes
around me and nothing.
|
| 00:45:03 | But if I took the littlest
taste, boom, off to the races.
|
| 00:45:05 | I'm sick again.
|
| 00:45:09 | >> Were you overweight as a kid?
|
| 00:45:13 | >> Not until high school.
|
| 00:45:16 | >> That's treacherous high
school when you're fat in high
school.
|
| 00:45:21 | Because I don't think -- I know
if you're a girl and you're
overweight, it's a nightmare in
hell.
|
| 00:45:25 | Is it the same for a guy?
|
| 00:45:27 | >> Well, you know, no, it's
worse for a girl.
|
| 00:45:30 | >> It's worse for a girl.
|
| 00:45:31 | Did the girls throw themselves
at you?
|
| 00:45:33 | >> They didn't, but I never had
problems with girls.
|
| 00:45:36 | >> One a day.
|
| 00:45:44 | I'm ron jeremy.
|
| 00:45:46 | No.
|
| 00:45:46 | But it didn't have much effect.
|
| 00:45:49 | I'm sure there were some women
that weren't attracted to me
because I was heavier.
|
| 00:45:51 | But once I started comedy at 20,
first two years I put on 50
00 in the
morning every night.
|
| 00:45:58 | >> Maybe it was the anxiety.
|
| 00:45:59 | >> But I felt great about it.
|
| 00:46:07 | That was something that's always
come natural to me.
|
| 00:46:09 | The change for me, the reason
that I did it, this only works
for me, not saying anybody else,
I approach it like an addiction.
|
| 00:46:14 | I wish I could have had a sex
addiction.
|
| 00:46:18 | >> That would be more glamorous.
|
| 00:46:20 | >> That would be exciting on
many levels.
|
| 00:46:23 | But nobody ever sees someone
eating cookies and says I want
to be with him.
|
| 00:46:28 | >> That's true.
|
| 00:46:31 | Munching on a loin of pork is
very attractive.
|
| 00:46:34 | >> Right.
|
| 00:46:35 | Noefbd jumps on you like that
except maybe another pork eater.
|
| 00:46:42 | Bun nonetheless, I approach
it like an addiction and because
I do, it's very serious and it's
black and white.
|
| 00:46:48 | It's not gray.
|
| 00:46:49 | >> Tell me the story of your
son's bris>>>
>> oh, dear.
|
| 00:46:54 | >> Tell me about that.
|
| 00:46:55 | >> I'm jewish.
|
| 00:46:56 | I didn't know -- my son was
circumcised.
|
| 00:46:58 | The moyle gave me a little pouch
and he said it's your son's
foreskin.
|
| 00:47:04 | Oh, thank you.
|
| 00:47:05 | >> Is that a souvenir?
|
| 00:47:06 | >> No, they tell you that you
should bury it in someplace that
means a lot.
|
| 00:47:11 | >> Why?
|
| 00:47:11 | >> I don't know.
|
| 00:47:12 | I just was told.
|
| 00:47:13 | You just sort of go along with
it.
|
| 00:47:15 | The problem is, it was only
three characters.
|
| 00:47:18 | >> So what happened?
|
| 00:47:22 | >> It's like jewish halloween.
|
| 00:47:26 | I'm sure there was other people
living around those days.
|
| 00:47:31 | But
anyhow, at that time I was new sacred
place where I wanted to bury it.
|
| 00:47:35 | So one day I was walking down
sunset boulevard.
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| 00:47:38 | I saw the sign, the electric
parade is ending, come to
disneyland now.
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| 00:47:42 | My wife and kid were out of town
at the time.
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| 00:47:45 | I'm like I'm going to disneyland
tonight, I'm going to see the
electric parade and go to
every -- this is what I did.
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| 00:47:51 | I'm going to go to every land,
have something to eat in every
land.
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| 00:47:55 | Then when I get done, I'm going
to throw it over at pirates of
the caribbean and I'll also be
really healthy.
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| 00:48:01 | Thinking that that would change
it.
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| 00:48:03 | In honor of my son.
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| 00:48:04 | Long story short, I started
eating in every land.
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| 00:48:07 | When you're an adult by yourself
in disneyland, it's creepy.
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| 00:48:11 | >> That's true.
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| 00:48:12 | It comes off that way, yeah.
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| 00:48:14 | >> So I was in this area like a
hunchback of notre dame eating
area eating a giant turkey leg.
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| 00:48:21 | Giant one.
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| 00:48:22 | There's families looking at me.
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| 00:48:23 | I have to go now.
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| 00:48:24 | I went over to sleeping beauty's
castle, wrapped a rock in it.
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| 00:48:29 | While "when you wish upon a
star" which I used to rock my
son to that song, boom.
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| 00:48:36 | >> How appropriate.
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| 00:48:37 | >> At sleepy beauty's castle,
say lo to my son's foreskin.
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| 00:51:53 | >> Jack, you're a [ bleep ],
mother [ bleep ], my
grandmother's broach is missing.
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| 00:51:58 | I could not replace this item.
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| 00:52:00 | How would you feel if something
you cared about was missing?
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| 00:52:02 | You don't [ bleep ] anything.
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| 00:52:03 | You know that?
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| 00:52:05 | >> My baseball cards.
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| 00:52:07 | >> You see?
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| 00:52:08 | Now it's not so funny.
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| 00:52:10 | >> Love, isn't it beautiful?
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| 00:52:12 | That was jeff and susi who plays
"
she's always calling you a
fat --
>> yes.
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| 00:52:23 | >> Does that bother you at all.
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| 00:52:24 | I know it's comedy.
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| 00:52:27 | >> There are two levels to it.
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| 00:52:28 | Number one, it doesn't bother me
because it's funny and I get
paid a lot.
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| 00:52:32 | The other aspect is if I don't
want to be called fat anymore, i
have a choice.
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| 00:52:36 | >> What's your choice?
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| 00:52:38 | >> To lose weight.
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| 00:52:40 | There you go.
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| 00:52:41 | >> Let's ask suzy if she enjoys
calling you a fat [ bleep ].
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| 00:52:43 | You're on the phone.
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| 00:52:45 | >> Oh, dear god.
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| 00:52:46 | >> Oh, yeah.
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| 00:52:49 | Do I enjoy it?
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| 00:52:50 | >> Yes.
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| 00:52:51 | >> I enjoy yelling at screaming
at him.
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| 00:52:53 | It doesn't have to be fat.
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| 00:52:55 | If he loses weight, he acts like
such a jerk half the time on the
show -- his character, not him
in real life.
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| 00:53:02 | His character.
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| 00:53:02 | That I enjoy yelling and
screaming at him and larry.
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| 00:53:07 | If it's not fat, it will be
something else.
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| 00:53:09 | >> Where will the rage come
from?
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| 00:53:11 | >> My rage is not at his fat but
at his behavior.
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| 00:53:15 | >> Susie one of my good friends
in real life is not like susie
grant.
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| 00:53:25 | >> She's not.
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| 00:53:25 | >> Were there more doughnuts at
the craft table when you were
there?
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| 00:53:27 | >> More?
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| 00:53:29 | What do you mean?
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| 00:53:30 | >> When you were around in your
sugar phase --
>> there was probably a lack of
them when I was in the sugar
phase.
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| 00:53:35 | I would think the crew would be
walking in going, what happened
to the doughnuts?
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| 00:53:42 | What are the cookies.
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| 00:53:44 | WHO TOOK THE HO-HOs?
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| 00:53:47 | >> When jeff was in the sugar
phase and somebody would say,
where's jeff, we'd know where to
find him.
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| 00:53:51 | >> That's the truth.
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| 00:53:52 | >> Susie, jeff's character
cheated on you this season.
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| 00:53:54 | >> I know.
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| 00:53:56 | >> What do you think about that?
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| 00:53:58 | I mean, you have a way about you
that I think would prevent a man
from cheating on you.
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| 00:54:04 | And he did it anyway.
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| 00:54:06 | >> He did it and he got away
with it with lies and deception
and mendacity, twice.
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| 00:54:12 | Who's to say I'm not cheating on
him with the pool boy?
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| 00:54:15 | >> Oh, baby.
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| 00:54:16 | Are you?
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| 00:54:17 | >> That's my secret.
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| 00:54:18 | I don't have to tell jeff
everything.
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| 00:54:19 | >> Oh, dear god.
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| 00:54:21 | Now you're going into
pretend land with your
character?
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| 00:54:26 | That's what you need, enjoy.
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| 00:54:26 | Why do I keep looking up like
she's up there?
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| 00:54:29 | >> Because she is.
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| 00:54:30 | She's upstairs.
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| 00:54:31 | >> She's everywhere.
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| 00:54:34 | >> You guys are doing a
fantastic job on the show.
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| 00:54:36 | >> Thank you.
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| 00:54:37 | >> Everybody loves the show.
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| 00:54:37 | People stop susie and ask her to
get on the phone -- tell them.
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| 00:54:40 | >> Jeff knows.
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| 00:54:43 | >> I've been with her when
people ask her to scream at
them.
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| 00:54:46 | Will you scream obscenities at
me?
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| 00:54:48 | Can you imagine that?
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| 00:54:50 | Hey, call me a fat so-and-so.
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| 00:54:53 | Call me, whatever.
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| 00:54:54 | It's like, really?
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| 00:54:58 | >> When they see us together,
they're just freaked out.
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| 00:55:00 | Jeff and I will be out to
dinner in the city and having
some nice time and obviously
enjoying each other's company.
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| 00:55:07 | And people can't believe that
the greens are so civil to one
another.
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| 00:55:12 | >> How about the other day
looking at apartments?
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| 00:55:13 | >> I know.
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| 00:55:14 | >> You two are just going to go
into the sunset.
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| 00:55:17 | >> She came with me.
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| 00:55:19 | >> She loves real estate.
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| 00:55:20 | >> But people were kind of
weirded out that we were moving
into their building.
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| 00:55:24 | >> Thank you jeff and susie.
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| 00:55:27 | If you're in new york friday or
saturday, jeff headlining at
caroline's.
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| 00:55:33 | The new book "my footprint:
Carrying the weight of the
"
♪ Grew up in a small town and when the rain
would fall down ♪
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| 00:57:16 | ♪ I would pray ♪
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| 00:57:20 | ♪ I'll spread my wings and I'll learn how
to fly
♪ I'll do what it takes till I touch the
sky ♪
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| 00:57:28 | ♪ I gotta take a risk, take a chance, make
a change, and break away ♪
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