Executive Vision - Building a Global Leadership Brand: Technology

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Aired on Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 (11/17/2009) at 06:01 PM

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00:00:03Our job tonight to ask top executives in technology how they steer their companies through an increasingly crowded marketplace.
00:00:10In a world where the choice is to innovate or die.
00:00:13You'll sit in on an executive strategy brightest minds in technology discuss their unique challenges.
00:00:25>> We start with marissa mayer, a leader in one of the company's best known companies, google.
00:00:31>> "Newsweek" called her one of the most powerful women of her generation.
00:00:38She is now one of the most influl leaders.
00:00:41As vice president of search products and user experience, mayer puts her stamp of approval on nearly everything you see.
00:00:50>> Marissa, thank you very much for flying in to see us here.
00:00:54We appreciate it on "executive " tell me, let's go back to the start.
00:00:57You graduated with 13 job offers from stanford.
00:00:58How did you end up choosing the two guys who interviewed you over a pingpong table with no vision plan to make money?
00:01:03>> Well, it was the height of the bubble.
00:01:05There were a lot of industries, that were really recruiting aggressively, consulting, teaching, lots of startups.
00:01:16So I really thought about the best decisions I'd made over the time.
00:01:18One was moving to switzerland to work.
00:01:23Even though I didn't speak german.
00:01:24One was going to stanford and changing my major.
00:01:26The things that all of those decisions had in common was i always worked with the smartest people I could find, and i always did something I was a little ready not to do.
00:01:33So when I looked at the job offers, I thought really where were the smartest people.
00:01:37They were impressive because they were visionary, in what they liked to achieve.
00:01:43And craig silverstein, who was the first employee is still today one of the smartest people I've ever met.
00:01:49I just want to go there and code along sides of him.
00:01:55I realized I could have given advice to fortune 500 countries or I could go to this little startup.
00:02:01Even if we failed in that, we would learn so much with a process, how do you build a company, how do you decide what decisions to make?
00:02:08I just knew that would be a real experience.
00:02:09>> Let me take you something to something you said.
00:02:11You went to stanford and changed your major.
00:02:13I was surprised you were going >> yeah, when I went to stanford, I thought I was going to be pre-med and biology and chemistry and go into surgery.
00:02:26And then I found this really amazing major called symbolic systems.
00:02:29Philosophy, psychology, linguistics and computer science.
00:02:33It's not neuroscience in that you're not operating on people.
00:02:39But it is look at how does the brain work.
00:02:43Philosophy, how do people reason?
00:02:47Linguistics, how do peel express themselves and apply it to science.
00:02:51Can you build a brain in this computer.
00:02:52>> More uniquely, you were looking for something unique.
00:02:55You learned something here that makes that worthwhile, I need to differentiate myself?
00:02:57>> Absolutely true.
00:03:01Basically I looked at it and said the chemistry and biology classes are great, but they're the same classes I could take anywhere.
00:03:08What can I do uniquely at stanford.
00:03:10I think stanford is very good at psychology.
00:03:11It's very good in computer science.
00:03:12I found this major that pulled together a lot of different disciplines and would be unique to that experience.
00:03:19>> You were the first woman engineer at google.
00:03:21I heard you say you don't notice you're a woman.
00:03:25It doesn't make that big of a difference there.
00:03:26I don't buy that for a second.
00:03:27>> It's really true.
00:03:28Last week, I was in a meeting, i realized the meeting I've been in was a standing meeting.
00:03:31I've been in it for two years.
00:03:32I'm the only woman.
00:03:36It was the first time I ever even noticed that because the culture at google is really geeky.
00:03:40>> You're a nerd first, a geek?
00:03:42>> People say, what is it like to be a woman there, I didn't think about that because I'm a geek.
00:03:48And everyone else is a geek.
00:03:48It's great to be a geek at google.
00:03:50>> You also believe that technology is about people, as a leader, your job is to empathize and connect with them.
00:04:00I was fascinated to see your definition of burnout.
00:04:03That it's not about how physically people have to work, it's that they get disenfranchised.
00:04:09They get upset with what is happening.
00:04:10And that you seek to find people's rhythm.
00:04:13What does that mean?
00:04:14>> I have a philosophy of leadership helping people avoid burnout which I call their rhythm.
00:04:17I think people feel burnout when they get annoyed.
00:04:25When they say I worked this hard.
00:04:27I worked 80 hours this week and I couldn't even have what i wanted here.
00:04:30So for some people, that is eight hours of sleep.
00:04:32Dinner at home with their families.
00:04:34But for other people, it's something different.
00:04:36So when I see an employee that i think might be headed for burnout, I say, take the next month and figure out what your rhythm.
00:04:44What is it the one thing if you can't have it makes you resentful.
00:04:49I've gotten very interesting answers to that question.
00:04:51I have a soccer mom who said, I'm willing to be on the phone with bangalore, india in the morning.
00:04:58But if I miss a soccer game, I'm bummed the rest of the week.
00:05:01I had another guy out of school.
00:05:03He said, tuesday night my friends get together.
00:05:05We have a potluck in someone's apartment.
00:05:06All of my friends from school.
00:05:10If I'm not at tuesday dinner, or I have to cancel it when it's at my house, I am relentful.
00:05:15For the whole rest of the week.
00:05:16>> I want to know what's your thing?
00:05:20>> What's your rhythm.
00:05:21>> What's your thing that you can't miss?
00:05:22>> I don't sleep very much.
00:05:23I'm happily on four to six hours.
00:05:24I'm happy to work late nights.
00:05:25For me, it really is travel.
00:05:28Being able to see the world.
00:05:34At a certain periodicity.
00:05:35For me, every four months or so, I need to walk out of the office, miss every standing meeting twice and know that that's okay.
00:05:42Everything just keeps running.
00:05:45Everything goes according to to plan.
00:05:47I will read e-mail on my vacation to keep apprise evidence things to make sure everything is going smoothly because that is more relaxing for me.
00:05:51Having that break to pull away from the office, go somewhere new and really see that my team and that google keeps running just as you'd expect it to be is really what I need to know to be refreshed.
00:06:06>> You said something earlier, that it's important to do things that you're not ready to do.
00:06:13That's terrifying for the average person.
00:06:14Why is it important to do something you're not ready to do.
00:06:15That seems like a recipe for failure.
00:06:17>> I think when you feel that little bit of uncomfortableness and you can push through it, you just learn so much more about yourself.
00:06:25I remember moving to stanford, 3,000 miles from home and not knowing anyone.
00:06:29And being afraid.
00:06:33Would I know anyone here?
00:06:33Will I make friends?
00:06:35Yes, you do make friends.
00:06:37And they're really interesting.
00:06:39You have to press yourself.
00:06:40I think by my nature, I'm very shy.
00:06:41>> Really?
00:06:41I didn't believe that.
00:06:42>> Which is really funny, I will say one of the pieces of advice I give people on their jobs, find something that you're really passionate about, but also find a place that you're really comfortable.
00:06:52I'm very comfortable at google because I feel I have common with people at google say what do you mean you're shy?
00:07:06But I was absolutely shy, even outside of work.
00:07:11I still am sometimes very shy.
00:07:14It's important to push yourself outside your boundaries and see what you can do.
00:07:18>> What you're really saying is, you define yourself by your job?
00:07:20Which is a danger, you're shy outside, but not at work?
00:07:21>> Well, I think that it's really for me the environments that you're in.
00:07:25For me, meeting new people, doing that thing outside of work isn't always that comfortable.
00:07:34I think I'm just more shy by nature.
00:07:36But at work, I have so many opinions, and I have so many passion, and I really do feel very comfortable with the team there.
00:07:44And that makes me much more outspoken, much more willing to share my opinion, or really go out of my way on something.
00:07:51>> You say you can tie every single thing that google does back to search which, of course, is your main mission.
00:07:55I thought that was so interesting to other business leaders no matter what industry you're in do you think that you need to tie all of your business back to your core focus.
00:08:03>> Well, certainly, the reason that works is because you have a core competence.
00:08:09That was probably the first thing that you did that you were really good at.
00:08:12And it's something that you can build on that, it's really a strategic advantage.
00:08:19Google's mission is to organize the world's information and making it useful.
00:08:24For us it started with web search.
00:08:27But it brings online off line.
00:08:29Engabling advertising.
00:08:29When we google the book search, we make it searchable.
00:08:31We put it into the main web index to enhance the answers.
00:08:35When we sell our advertisements, we actually think our advertisements are really targeted and really relevant, so much that they're like search results.
00:08:47We really do focus on how can this build on what we're good at already?
00:08:49>> What do you search?
00:08:50What do you google?
00:08:52>> I do an average of 80 to 100 searches a day.
00:08:53>> For what?
00:08:59>> Everything.
00:09:00Sometimes I get interesting examples of things that work well or don't work well on google.
00:09:04My favorite search was how to tie a bow tie.
00:09:08A couple of years ago we would have given you a list of ten blue links.
00:09:11As we evolved into a universal search and bring more content to the page.
00:09:13You get diagrams.
00:09:14You actually get a video of a harvard professor teaching you how to tie a bow tie.
00:09:20I search for all kinds of things.
00:09:21But most of the things I'm curious about.
00:09:25>> You're the gatekeeper of what people see when they go to google.
00:09:28Is that a big responsibility?
00:09:29>> Yes and no.
00:09:29We have so many people at google that have great ideas.
00:09:31Everybody at google does a great job of keeping the user in mind and really having their interests at the heart of what they're asking.
00:09:41So in many ways, it's certainly a very high-paced role, and there are a lot of different ideas, but the ideas are so good it makes it easy.
00:09:49>> You're a very young business, still but yet, you've almost got this global reach.
00:09:55How are you dealing with the scale, recruiting people around the world simultaneously, incentivizing them, making good decisions.
00:10:03How does that work for you?
00:10:06>> The scale is one of the most humbling things about google.
00:10:10Its reach and overall growth pattern, some of the most challenging things in terms of making sure you have enough guidance that people make good decisions but not so much that it gets in the way.
00:10:16>> How do you do it in practice?
00:10:20>> We looked at what worked for us when we were small.
00:10:23What worked for us when we were small is we had small teams, three people, four people, five people, and we gave them access to a lot of information.
00:10:31In google, we manage in a ways that flat.
00:10:33One manager to 30 or 40 individuals.
00:10:34In that kind of environment, you need to be self-directed.
00:10:36Where do you get that direction from?
00:10:38We try to make as many of the business details.
00:10:41Who's doing what?
00:10:44Whose working on what.
00:10:45What's working?
00:10:46What doesn't?
00:10:46What are the experiment results we've seen available?
00:10:49So the engineers and people who build the products at google have access to that and make good decisions.
00:10:53>> Let me embarrass you a little.
00:11:00>> You were already into google's aesthetic when you were 3 years old.
00:11:06Describe that.
00:11:09Describe this picture.
00:11:10You have used this as a tool when you talk to people about google.
00:11:13>> I have a picture of me.
00:11:16I'm 3 years old.
00:11:17I'm sitting on my parents' front step.
00:11:20And I'm in this short outfit of all-google colors.
00:11:21>> Foreshadowing.
00:11:21>> Decorating homes like this as well.
00:11:27>> It's funny.
00:11:28People will come to my apartment and say -- I think google's aesthetic has always appealed to me.
00:11:36I didn't define it.
00:11:37It has appealed to me, even before I was at google, it did.
00:11:39I can't really tell if that's where google's aesthetic and style begins and mine ends.
00:11:42People will come over and say does your apartment look like google or does google look like your apartment?
00:11:50>> I heard when you have job candidates and you always say what is the coolest thing you saw in the last six months.
00:11:57Why do you ask that request of candidates?
00:11:59What you looking for in the answer?
00:12:00>> I think for me what I'm looking for is their imagination.
00:12:04And what fascinates them.
00:12:05The worst thing that can happen in terms of me asking that question, it just seems so over it all.
00:12:09They're so discerning.
00:12:10Well, I've seen many cool things, but it's hard to choose one.
00:12:14My standards are so high.
00:12:17I just think that the world is so fascinating.
00:12:19Every little thing that you see.
00:12:20If there's nothing something every day that captures your imagination, what could the next innovation be, you're missing the boat.
00:12:34>> You said you want to live in this constant state.
00:12:35This isn't an innocent young girl barefoot through the corn fields, is it?
00:12:42It's a very structured opinion on your part on how you're going to view the world and how you're going to lead?
00:12:45>> Absolutely.
00:12:45I think being curious about things.
00:12:47Being engaged.
00:12:52About things.
00:12:52>> Have you worked on that?
00:12:54>> And also just being able to look at something with fresh eyes and say wow, that's a whole flu way of looking at it.
00:13:00I never thought about the fact that this technology could be this way or that way.
00:13:03Or you can use this physical object.
00:13:04>> What I'm driving at, this is an advanced way of thinking, this is not a naivety, you've actually put energy and time into it to develop it to that level?
00:13:19>> Well I think it makes me and other project managers good at spotting new ideas and trends.
00:13:24It's very optimistic, very curious.
00:13:26Anything you that look at or touch could be the next big thing during the day.
00:13:28>> You're right.
00:13:28That's a fun way to look at the world.
00:13:29Thank you so much.
00:13:32You're going to be sticking around.
00:13:33When we come back, telling us how they're finding unique ways to ensure their survival.
00:13:41>> Next, listen in on an executive strategy session as some of tech's top leaders reveal what they're doing to survive in this challenging market.
00:13:49>> The cost of failure is far lower than the cost of not trying.
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00:17:11>>> Welcome back to "executive vision," technology's leaders have made our lives more connected than ever before but they also have to balance the cold reality of economics.
00:17:25>> Here's what technology and consumers are facing around the globe.
00:17:30Technology, arguably the most important economic driver in the 21st century.
00:17:34Recently, one of the hardest-hit sectors in the markets.
00:17:40Tech's leaders, tasked with what consumers need to make their lives easier.
00:17:48Delivering products to save them time, keep them connected.
00:17:52And make them mobile.
00:17:54Not easy when rivals are in top pursuit.
00:17:55Making similar product.
00:17:56Selling them at lower prices and look are for any and every opportunity to gain market share.
00:18:03The competition is fierce.
00:18:05And like death and taxes, commoditization is inevitable.
00:18:13Tech companies can run, but they can't hide.
00:18:17They're facing a paradox of ubicty, where the more evasive technology becomes, the more it cannibalizes the leaders that gave it life.
00:18:30Some stars are still managing to shine, successful with exclusive product launches, user based businesses, and collaborating with the competition.
00:18:38>> Who would have thought that microsoft would be teaming up with yahoo to go after google's dominant share of search?
00:18:50>> In a chess match where strategy is key and billions of dollars are on the line, technology's leaders face huge hurdles.
00:18:55The question now, will consumer spending give tech sales the boost they need to emerge as one from one of the industry's greatest ever slumps.
00:19:08Tonight we have assembled some of the finest minds in technology for what we have called our executive strategy session.
00:19:16bill McDermott is president of and global field operations for , the world's largest business software company.
00:19:28After cutting thousands of jobs, says it's now geared up for growth.
00:19:31Ram shriram played a key role in the early days of google, amazon and netscape.
00:19:40He invests in and advises new tech companies.
00:19:43Jean botti is eads.
00:19:45Best known for airbus passenger planes.
00:19:47He joins us from singapore.
00:19:50Launch tech president and ceo gerald quindlen runs the world's largest maker of computer mice.
00:19:59Plunging sales forced him to lay off 15% of his staff, but he says he knows the way back to profits.
00:20:04Jimmy wells turned his vision of a world in which everyone has access to free knowledge into the collaborative phenomenon wikipedia.
00:20:15He's now bringing people together through the web hosting service wikia.
00:20:19>> Bill what do you think is the biggest challenge in technology right now?
00:20:21>> It's staying focused on customer.
00:20:23Right now, companies have a tendency to get very inward in their focus.
00:20:28The reality is time to double the emphasis on the customer.
00:20:33And what they want is changing.
00:20:34Today, they want a return on their invested capital.
00:20:39They'll look at technology like any other investment.
00:20:42No value, no sale.
00:20:46There is an art form tieing to a strategy to a business outcome >> ram, do you agree with that, what do you think the biggest challenge is?
00:20:54>> I think the biggest challenge is from where I come from, is innovation.
00:20:56And continuing to fund innovation through a downturn is the most important thing for any scale business.
00:21:02We look for something that is defensible.
00:21:06And that has enough of a lead in a market that consumers tend to buy, as things like the iphone have shown, people do buy extensive products even through an downturn.
00:21:14If it's innovative enough, if it captivates their attention and actually improves their lives.
00:21:21>> Gerald, what do you think is the biggest challenge?
00:21:23>> I'm going to build on what ram said.
00:21:25There is a fundamental difference between new and innovative.
00:21:29Innovative is bringing benefits solving a consumer problem.
00:21:35We focus on consumers.
00:21:36You need to bring products to the market.
00:21:39Not just that are new and slightly improving on the one you are replacing, but in our terminology that solves a consumer pain point and simplifies their life, gives them more free time, allows them to connect with people.
00:21:52>> One of the biggest problems i see for all of you, as soon as you come out with something good, everyone else knocks it off.
00:21:58How do you deal with that?
00:22:00How do you deal with that?
00:22:01>> One thing I terms in product development is what I call castle-building.
00:22:06You pull the curtains closed and try to build a product for years that is a wow.
00:22:10We try to launch early and often.
00:22:12Launch something, see how the market responds to it, and then build that next feature they want.
00:22:17See how they respond to that.
00:22:18If you're constantly in this process of iteration, that's what is amazing with the internet.
00:22:23So many of the products and services we use are alive and they can evolve and grow and change in response to feedback.
00:22:29>> I completely agree with marissa.
00:22:32In fact, the cost of failure is far lower than the cost of not trying.
00:22:35>> Ram, you mentioned failure and learning from mistakes.
00:22:38Obviously we're all going through a process every day.
00:22:41What would you say than at the moment?
00:22:43>> First of all, silicon valley is a state of mind, it's not a place.
00:22:47Therefore, it's been very supportive of people that fail or companies that fail, and then allow themselves to restart or individuals to rebuild in a new environment.
00:22:58So I think accepting failure inside of a company allows for innovation to thrive.
00:23:03Because you can't legislate innovation.
00:23:05It just sort of happens.
00:23:06All you can do is create an environment for it to succeed.
00:23:09And the other thing to do is to listen well and be prepared to note the mistakes you have made.
00:23:15And that requires humility.
00:23:17>> But that's so touchy-feeley.
00:23:19You still have to make money.
00:23:22Failure is great as a life lesson, but you have to have all the winners, right?
00:23:26>> I agree with what both marissa and ram are saying.
00:23:31You have to fail, fail fast.
00:23:33>> Many of you are looking for creative ways to boost your bottom line.
00:23:36That can mean competing in each other's own backyards, or teaming up with rivals to take on an even larger foe.
00:23:43>> Reporter: When it comes to technology, cool is king.
00:23:49It's all about the newest, the fastest, the best.
00:23:54>> We think what we have done is to reinvent the thumb.
00:23:57>> This is where the world is going.
00:23:59>> It's beautiful.
00:24:01>> 200 Million nokia smart phone uselers be enjoying the microsoft office experience, and we're very excited about that.
00:24:08>> Reporter: But these days to survive in the business technology, companies have to be agile, inventive and ravenous.
00:24:15>> I would be disappointed if we didn't have a decent share of that market.
00:24:19>> So ravenous in fact that they would rather get in bed with long-time rivals than give up market share, a new trend so powerful, a phenomenon now so common, it even has its own word, ko-opetition.
00:24:35>> Do you make enough money on it and does it still serve your customers?
00:24:39>> Reporter: Mergers and acquisitions, alliances and partnerships, invention and implementation.
00:24:43The bottom line in today's fast-paced technology sector, it's either innovation, or it's extinction, and that's a lesson learned at cisco systems.
00:24:56Cisco systems was built on innovation.
00:24:57Its back room routers and switches were the world's version of air traffic control, guiding, directing, and deciding how billions of bits and bytes moved from one sector of the world to another.
00:25:12>> Every person, everything connected to the network.
00:25:14Our core confidence is around the network.
00:25:17>> Reporter: But when the dotcom bubble burst, the company was able to partner, acquire and innovate its way back to the top.
00:25:27It's a strategy that drives cisco from the $7 billion it set on set box cable maker scientific atlanta to the more recent $600 million buyout of pure digital.
00:25:38The maker of those popular flip hd video cameras, a staggering 130 acquisitions since 1993 accounting for half of cisco's total revenue.
00:25:50>> We have to bulk innovate internally, partner well with other companies and acquire well.
00:25:57>> There is this total vision that drives cisco, and it's the same thing.
00:26:01Whether you're intel, whether you're apple, you have to have a really strong vision first of where you want to take the company.
00:26:08>> Reporter: Across town at google, it's a decidedly different approach.
00:26:11It seems google is on everyone's mind because google is spreading its tentacles into everyone else's businesses.
00:26:18>> Google, in essence, will become microsoft's biggest thorn in the flesh going forward.
00:26:24>> Reporter: With such a dramatically changing landscape in tech, key questions remain.
00:26:29How much should companies expand or contract, and should they partner or go it alone when it comes to creating the next big thing, especially when the next big thing risks becoming yesterday's news even before it's developed.
00:26:43For "executive vision," I'm jim goldman.
00:26:45>> You know, marissa, a lot of the things we saw in there, that's aimed at you.
00:26:50Everyone is gunning at you.
00:26:52What is it like to lead, or how do you lead with a target on your back?
00:26:55>> Well, we didn't really think that, one, a lot of competition is good for the user because it makes for better products.
00:27:02Competition also gains more mind share.
00:27:03People are more aware of what is happening in the search and what is happening in our business.
00:27:07And I think that's good for everyone.
00:27:09>> They're chasing you down, they're trying to eat your lunch.
00:27:12Come on, that's got to be tough.
00:27:13>> I think it's important to always be cognizant that you're in a larger ecosystem.
00:27:18I would say our spv sales has this great saying.
00:27:22It's like driving a sports car.
00:27:23Don't look in the rear view mirror and drive off the road.
00:27:27>> Sure.
00:27:28>> So you've got to be aware of your competition, but you can't focus on them.
00:27:31>> You already worked with microsoft, don't you?
00:27:33How do you see this developing?
00:27:36>> Our biggest competitor is microsoft, and it's also one of our biggest partners.
00:27:40We work with them on every operation system launch on windows 7.
00:27:44To try to bring the best of that out for consumers.
00:27:47>> At the heart of what we're talking about is the trust that leadership has to have that what used to be proprietary information I'm prepared to put out there in the ecosystem.
00:27:57>> Its nature of the beast.
00:27:59>> But it's a fundamental seismic shift?
00:28:01>> I think it's been going on for a while.
00:28:03We've been competing and cooperating with microsoft for a decade.
00:28:06It's not a new thing for us.
00:28:07It's the way of life.
00:28:08We're used to it at this point.
00:28:10>> Simon, the vertically integrated stacks of the 21st century, where companies try to do everything on an end to end basis is a dead model.
00:28:20These companies that open up to a healthy ecosystem, that do what is?
00:28:23The interest of the customer, they can execute beautifully and give the customer the most value win.
00:28:28>> Jimmy, your whole business is based on that principle.
00:28:33>> Our core has always been let's share knowledge.
00:28:35The does that hurt us in the market?
00:28:37Does that help news the market?
00:28:39We don't really think than.
00:28:40Our customers love it.
00:28:42The people who use the site love it.
00:28:44As long as we stay true to that passion, then we'll remain a leader.
00:28:47>> Jean, what is the view at eads on this?
00:28:49>> For sure we need to protect ourselves.
00:28:53This is a business that obviously is very difficult.
00:28:57It takes long years, a lot of development, a lot of money being invested in there.
00:29:03So for us, it's important to have collaboration.
00:29:06And we do, but not on the core businesses.
00:29:10Everybody tries to protect themselves, because as you can imagine, in the defense area, for example, there are things that are very specific and that are very particular on the company you're into.
00:29:21That in our industry, you cannot share.
00:29:23>> This is a leadership issue, and a culture issue.
00:29:26On the leadership side, the leader has to set the tempo for what kind of business model you're going to create around your customers and ecosystem.
00:29:36On the culture side, you have to believe that being a good partner is a force multiplier.
00:29:41>> Next, technology may transform our lives for the better, but how are its leaders dealing with its unintended consequences?
00:29:48>> Now you need to take a role that says I'm going to be proactive and lead the way.
00:29:52>> And later, our panel takes on a leadership challenge from a harvard professor.
00:29:56>> How will you compete against free?
00:29:59>> Coming up on "executive " you think you still got Hmm?
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00:33:26>>> Welcome back to "executive " >> technological innovation has transformed our lives for the better.
00:33:32But that process has come with a price.
00:33:33Pollution.
00:33:34Take a look.
00:33:37>> Faster, more mobile and in realtime, we all benefit from the torrent of technological advance, but there is a downside -- pollution.
00:33:51>> Our future on this planet depends on our willingness to address the challenge posed by carbon pollution.
00:33:55>> It's not just manufacturing the plastic and the metals that make up the devices, it's generating the power they run on and that cools them.
00:34:07>> The communications technology industry admits about 2% of the global co2 gases around the world, which is about the same as the airline industry, which is massive problem.
00:34:17>> Microsoft is working on the problem.
00:34:19>> We actually create tools where I can go in and look and say, how do we drive better efficiency?
00:34:22Or how do we change the power supply so that it produces even less carbon dioxide?
00:34:30>> That means cutting emissions from manufacturing equipment down the supply chain, and getting employees to change their behavior, like switching off when they leave.
00:34:40Then there are the data centers, also called serve-a-thons, processing and serving information for the next.
00:34:47To stop them from overheating, you need to artificially cool air and pump it over them.
00:34:52The solution, put your computing power where it's nighttime in the world, at the very least you can use cut-price off-peak electricity to cool the air.
00:35:02If it's not cold enough already.
00:35:03>> So one area for example is where do you even locate your data center.
00:35:06So one of the areas we have recently located a data center is in ireland.
00:35:10And what we do there is we take advantage of the fact that there is a lot of cool, fresh air in ireland.
00:35:17>> But rather an island, why not go all the way, iceland.
00:35:21>> Because iceland has an average ambient temperature of about 50 degrees all year round.
00:35:27It allows for a frequent zone of free cooling for the computer servers.
00:35:31And at the ultimate development of the campus, it will be greater than half a million square feet of data space.
00:35:37>> So far few leaders have shipped their servers all the way north, but apparently things look promising.
00:35:43>> We're working with our customers presently and anticipate an announcement shortly.
00:35:48>> Critical to any move, the cost of the fiberoptic to make the international connections.
00:35:53Experts say for now only three things matter -- location, location, location.
00:35:58>> People are building their data centers close to where they've always been, close to their headquarters, close to where their key people reside, irrespective of the issues, and the cost of even terrorist attacks and other factors.
00:36:13MOST OF THE CIOs WILL FOCUS Primarily on cost.
00:36:16If they can spend a little bit of money and get benefits, they will do.
00:36:21But they will not spend vast sums to be able to do good for the environment.
00:36:25>> So with digital storage riding dramatically, how should they react?
00:36:29What is the smart trade-off between the short-term cost base and the cost that might be paid by our children?
00:36:35>> You know all of that sort of begs the question, marissa.
00:36:39As a tech leader, do you feel a responsibility to do something about the environment?
00:36:42Is there a moral responsibility or not?
00:36:44>> I was really proud of google when we went green in june of 2007.
00:36:47And when you look at where we located our data centers, we use wind power.
00:36:52We use water power to basically power or search.
00:36:55And I think that that's really, really important.
00:36:57We have also put out challenges to the energy community to try to come up with cleaner, inexpensive ways of generating electricity.
00:37:05I think that it's easy in software and on the internet.
00:37:08Everything feels so clean.
00:37:09I was really struck at one point when I learned that one megabyte of information being download basically puts as much carbon in the air as one charcoal brick.
00:37:20>> There are several things.
00:37:21We focus on three areas.
00:37:23One is products themselves.
00:37:24We focus on making them more environmentally friendly.
00:37:26The second thing is just our basic infrastructure, focusing on our manufacturing and our operations in general, making them more eco friendly.
00:37:32And then looking at your carbon footprint in aggregate.
00:37:36>> Sustainability ithe biggest leadership issue in the next decade.
00:37:40You have to do two things.
00:37:41One you have to have a sustainable business model, and you're going to have to innovate your business model to keep it going strong, ours included.
00:37:50Secondly, you have got to reduce carbon emissions in these companies.
00:37:54We're committed to doing that by cutting it in half over the next years.
00:37:57What we're doing specifically with customers is environmental health and safety, solutions for, this and also carbon management, reduction of the footprint.
00:38:04>> I think the biggest thing we can do as leaders is two words.
00:38:08Be proactive as opposed to being reactive.
00:38:10In the past companies had to be dragged to the issue.
00:38:12They did the minimum they had to make the issue go away.
00:38:15Now you have to take a role that says I'm going to be proactive and lead the way and drive my company.
00:38:21>> If I may, let me bring in -- specifically a mechanical engineer in this, jean, I'm appreciative of your view.
00:38:31>> It's paramount to remaster completely the energy management in airplane, helicopters, and other products.
00:38:37We want to remove, you know, our industry from the environmental equation, even if we're only 3% of the problem.
00:38:44So this keeps me awake at night, to be frank with you.
00:38:47>> One of the things we did too is build a platinum leed facility.
00:38:53It runs on natural water, natural light and uses very little electricity to run an entire building.
00:38:57So I think you've got to be a role model and make the investments that really count for being a sustainable role model company.
00:39:04You can't do enough of it.
00:39:06>> Interesting ideas from all of you.
00:39:07Up next, they're among technology's visionaries.
00:39:10But can they solve the leadership challenge we have in store for them?
00:39:14Find out when we come back.
00:39:15>> Next, harvard's ranjay gulati assigns a challenge to solve in realtime.
00:39:21>> The issue is execution.
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00:41:39Inspiring >>> welcome back to "executive " tonight, we're talking to some of the finest minds in technology.
00:42:56He's a professor of business administration at harvard business school and the author of the forthcoming book " ranjay gulati has been listening from harvard, and he joins us now to present our leadership challenge for the panel.
00:43:11>> It's a great conversation.
00:43:16I'm delighted to have had a chance to observe it.
00:43:17The challenge I have is as follows.
00:43:19You are the ceo of a software firm that sells to small and medium enterprises.
00:43:22You're a market leader.
00:43:27Margins are very good, but you have a recent challenge.
00:43:29Your immediate rival whose software is just about as good as yourself has decided to pursue a new strategy.
00:43:38They are going to license that software on an open license which means they're going to give it away for free.
00:43:41They're also going to allow the user community to develop on it, share the cord, and they're going to work on the community.
00:43:50They themselveses are going to make money with service, you know, installation, maintenance services.
00:43:55How will you compete against free?
00:43:57>> What do you think, marissa?
00:44:00>> One thing to do when you're trying to understand big shifts in your business is look at eventualities that exist out there.
00:44:08For example in search, how much should we personalize search.
00:44:132020 Or 2025 be personalized?
00:44:15Obviously it will be.
00:44:16In this challenge I would look at this and say well do, we think that this product eventually be l be open source?
00:44:21Probably it will be because most software is actually more agile and evolve morse quickly when it is.
00:44:26And also look at some of the other eventualities in the business.
00:44:30Can you use the internet to distribute your software?
00:44:32So you can actually download it over the web.
00:44:36Can you have the service that provides leverage the internet, either for storage or functionality or computation.
00:44:43Because I think when you look at the trend, overall, the power of the internet when revised from the storage computation distribution is really, really strong, and probably an eventuality for most package software sellers.
00:44:53>> Bill, attack the problem.
00:44:56>> Well, the issue is it's not just about the technology.
00:44:58>> No.
00:44:58>> So clearly, if the technology was free, and that was good enough, somebody is going to take the free product.
00:45:04The issue is execution.
00:45:05How?
00:45:06How do you do it?
00:45:09So the reality is nobody invests in software and technology unless they're going to get a return on their invested capital, unless your solution is different and it gives the customer a competitive advantage, and it gives them the ability to excel in their industry and a constant slow floe of innovation and change so they're dynamic and agile.
00:45:31You're irrelevant anyway.
00:45:33My idea is real simple.
00:45:35If open source provides a certain service, embrace that, partner with that, and differentiate on the edges of execution where you add benefit and change the way companies run their business fundamentally.
00:45:46>> Ram, that enough?
00:45:47Would it win the challenge?
00:45:49>> It may not.
00:45:50If you're an established company selling a lot of licensed software and your revenue depended on it, what this challenge didn't say whether that was a public company or not.
00:45:58It does matter.
00:45:59If they were not a public company, I would embrace the open source model and shift my model to that model and do a lot of scenario planning around how to get revenue from other sources.
00:46:10Possibly services revenue.
00:46:14Probably contiguous product areas that I could get into building on top of the open source.
00:46:18So embrace and extend would be the model if I was a private company in this space.
00:46:22If I was a public company, it's a much harder challenge to make that transition because on the one side, you're going to be hemorrhaging revenues because you're shifting to an open source model from a licensed software model.
00:46:33And that can be a painful transition.
00:46:35>> Okay.
00:46:36>> But I think it's inevitable.
00:46:37>> Jimmy, how do you feel about this in silicon valley?
00:46:41>> Well, I mean, it's a funny question for me because my whole career has been built on being that second guy who came along and opened source to everything.
00:46:49If you look at wikipedia versus britannica or kia versus the publishing industry, I'm the person that is really pushing forward this open source, share everything, all our software is open, all of the data is open.
00:47:06So it's kind of hard for me to put myself in the shoes of britannica and how do they compete against wikipedia?
00:47:14I think they just have to give up.
00:47:15It's hopeless, and embrace it.
00:47:17I think a lot of companies have failed and will continue to fail because they're not recognizing that this change is really fundamental.
00:47:23>> Gerald, what do you think about the way they're attacking the problem?
00:47:26Right or wrong?
00:47:27>> I think a lot of good ideas.
00:47:28The first thing I would say since the subtext of the discussion is leadership, pretty sure the first thing we would all do is gather the smartest minds we know in a room to help us think through.
00:47:39None of us have solved these big issues by ourselves.
00:47:42I would get some of the smartest engineers in our company and say look, we have a real challenge here.
00:47:46One of the things I say, maybe it's my default, but I always default to finding more ways to add value through innovation to the existing product.
00:47:56We fight every day with some really, really low-priced competitors.
00:48:00It's not quite free, but it's pretty far down there.
00:48:03And yet we find ways to beat them them all the time by adding value to our products and differentiating and adding to the brand.
00:48:09>> Professor, what did they miss?
00:48:12>> They raise issues, the four Cs, CORE, CRETETIVITY, Innovation, customer, collaboration, I've heard carbon.
00:48:22But in the end, it's about execution.
00:48:26Can you walk?
00:48:27Not just stop.
00:48:28Make sure we come clear on.
00:48:30>> On the money with that one.
00:48:32>> Hey, look, it's all about getting that customer business benefit.
00:48:40If you don't help them execute, you're irrelevant.
00:48:42>> We'll be right back with final thoughts from our panel.
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00:52:14>>> Welcome back to "executive " it's time for some final thoughts on leadership from our panel.
00:52:18Marissa, let's kick off with you.
00:52:20>> I think one thing that it's reinforced by the discussion for me is focussing on the user.
00:52:27The user and the customer is what ultimately makes you relevant.
00:52:29But also optimism.
00:52:31I think that one of the things that leaders do is paint a bright vision for the future.
00:52:38And be that around innovation or future of the teams or why being green is important, being able to have that bright vision for the future that you can really bring forth for the team to rally around is important.
00:52:51>> John, give us the final thought.
00:52:53>> Well, for me it's you have to be a preacher almost on those things.
00:52:57If you believe in what you're doing innovation, you really have to keep pushing on this because you're finding your way.
00:53:04Plenty of people that will explain to you why it cannot be done.
00:53:08And you really have to believe when you do innovations, you know, you have to really push through and just, you know, go to the goal.
00:53:16>> Ram, final thought from you.
00:53:17>> Well, a good lead worry inspire the team, not manage through fear, would essentially bask in the reflected glory of their success, of the team's success, and therefore not take credit for those success, but let the team take credit.
00:53:32And not deflect blame, but take responsibility.
00:53:34>> Interesting.
00:53:35Bill?
00:53:35>> Leaders build great cultures.
00:53:38So number one, put people first.
00:53:40The ultimate competitive differentiation is the quality of your people.
00:53:45Whether you get them out of university mba schools or simply from the industry, you must train them and teach them how to learn and grow around your product, to value proposition to the customer, and ultimately the manner which the customer consumes value.
00:53:59They have to be obsessed with this.
00:54:00And that is a culture issue only leaders can do.
00:54:04>> You can only lead people where they really want to go already.
00:54:07So you have to have a vision that people can buy into that there is real sincere, authentic passion throughout the entire community of your employees, your customers, everybody, because if you're not leading people where they want to go, you'll never do it.
00:54:21>> Jerry?
00:54:22>> I boil it down to I think leaders have responsibility to lead change, to drive change, and to help other people adapt to change.
00:54:29In technology, change is constant.
00:54:31So I think that is our biggest challenge is helping people adapt to change.
00:54:33>> We have reached the end of our hour.
00:54:35Thank you all for being on our panel today.
00:54:37Much, much appreciated.
00:54:38If you want more on leadership at home, specifically in technology, then head to executivedecision.cnbc.com.
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00:00:00E height of the bubble.
00:00:01There were a lot of industries, that were really recruiting aggressively, management consulting, teaching, lots of startups.
00:00:09So I really thought about the best decisions I'd made over the time.
00:00:11One was moving to switzerland to work.
00:00:15One was going to stanford and changing my major.
00:00:21The things that all of those decisions had in common was i always worked with the smartest people I could find, and i always did something I was a little ready not to do.
00:00:25So when I looked at the job offers, I thought really where were the smartest people.
00:00:32And larry and sergei were so impressive because they were so visionary in what they liked to achieve.
00:00:37And craig silverstein, who was the first employee is still today one of the smartest people I've ever met.
00:00:40I just want to go there and code along sides of him.
00:00:42I realized I could have given advice and management consulting.
00:00:48I could have given advice to fortune 500 countries, or go to this little startup and try and build one.
00:00:54I knew even if we failed in that, we would still learn so much through the process of how do you build a company, how do you decide what decisions to make, that I knew it would be a enriching and experience.
00:01:08>> Let me take you something to something you said.
00:01:09You went to stanford and changed your major.
00:01:14>> Yeah, when I went to stanford, I thought I was going to be pre-med and biology and chemistry and go into surgery.
00:01:17And then I found this really amazing major called symbolic systems.
00:01:22It's philosophy, psychology, linguistics and computer science.
00:01:27Basically, it's not neuroscience in that you're not operating on people.
00:01:30But it is look at how does the brain work.
00:01:35You do cognitive psychology.
00:01:36How do people learn.
00:01:37Philosophy, how do people reason?
00:01:45Linguistics, how do people express themselves and apply it to science.
00:01:48Can you build a brain in this computer.
00:01:49>> More uniquely, you were looking for something unique.
00:01:51You learned something here that makes that worthwhile, I need to differentiate myself?
00:01:53>> Absolutely true.
00:01:54Basically I looked at it and said the chemistry and biology classes are great, but they're the same classes I could take anywhere.
00:01:58What can I do uniquely at stanford.
00:02:00I think stanford is very good at psychology.
00:02:02It's very good in computer science.
00:02:04I found this major that pulled together a lot of different disciplines that I thought would be really unique to that experience.
00:02:12>> You were the first woman engineer at google.
00:02:17I've heard you say before that you don't even notice you're a woman, that it doesn't make that big of a difference there.
00:02:22I don't buy that for a second.
00:02:22>> It's really true.
00:02:23Last week, I was in a meeting, i realized the meeting I've been in was a standing meeting.
00:02:25I've been in it for two years.
00:02:29I realized I am the only woman in that.
00:02:31It was the first time I ever even noticed that because the culture at google is really geeky.
00:02:34>> You're a nerd first, a geek?
00:02:39>> I'm a geek.
00:02:40People say what is it like to be a woman there, I didn't think about that because I'm a geek.
00:02:43And everyone else is a geek.
00:02:43It's great to be a geek at google.
00:02:44>> You also believe that technology is about people, as a leader, your job is to empathize and connect with them.
00:02:50I was fascinated to see your definition of burnout.
00:02:53That it's not about how physically people have to work, it's that they get disenfranchised.
00:02:59They get upset with what is happening.
00:03:01And that you seek to find people's rhythm.
00:03:02What does that mean?
00:03:04>> I have a philosophy of leadership helping people avoid burnout which I call their rhythm.
00:03:14Because I think that people feel burnout when they get annoyed, when they say I worked this hard I worked 80 hours this week and I couldn't even have what i wanted here.
00:03:24So for some people, that is eight hours of sleep.
00:03:26Dinner at home with their families.
00:03:28But for other people, it's something different.
00:03:30So when I see an employee that i think might be headed for burnout, I'll say take the next month and figure out what your rhythm is.
00:03:39What is it the one thing if you can't have it makes you resentful.
00:03:41I've gotten very interesting answers to that question.
00:03:43I have a soccer mom who said, I'm willing to be on the phone bangalore, india at 1 in the morning.
00:03:51But if I miss a soccer game, I'm bummed the rest of the week.
00:03:55I'm just not as productive.
00:03:56I had another guy out of school.
00:03:57He said, tuesday night my friends get together.
00:03:59We have a potluck in someone's apartment.
00:04:01All of my friends from school.
00:04:03If I'm not at tuesday dinner, or I have to cancel it when it's at my house, I am relentful.
00:04:08For the whole rest of the week.
00:04:09>> I want to know what's your thing?
00:04:13>> I was going to say, what's your rhythm.
00:04:14>> What's your thing that you can't miss?
00:04:15>> I don't sleep very much.
00:04:16I'm happily on four to six hours.
00:04:18I'm happy to work late nights.
00:04:22For me, it really is travel.
00:04:24Being able to see the world.
00:04:26At a certain periodicity.
00:04:27For me, every four months or so, I need to walk out of the office, miss every standing meeting twice and know that that's okay.
00:04:33Everything just keeps running.
00:04:35Everything goes according to to plan.
00:04:38I will read e-mail on my vacation to keep apprise of things to make sure everything is going smoothly, because that's more relaxing for me.
00:04:49Having that break to pull away from the office, go somewhere explore somewhere new and really see that my team and that google keeps running just as you'd expect it to be is really what I need to know to be refreshed.
00:04:59>> You said something earlier, that it's important to do things that you're not ready to do.
00:05:03That's terrifying for the average person.
00:05:05Why is it important to do stuff that you're not ready to do?
00:05:11That seems like a recipe for failure.
00:05:12>> I think when you feel that little bit of uncomfortableness and you can push through it, you just learn so much more about yourself.
00:05:18I remember moving to stanford, 3,000 miles from home and not knowing anyone.
00:05:21And being afraid.
00:05:22Would I know anyone here?
00:05:25Would you make friends?
00:05:27Yes, you do make friends.
00:05:28And they're really interesting.
00:05:31And you have to push yourself.
00:05:33I think by my nature, I'm very shy.
00:05:34>> Really?
00:05:35I didn't believe that.
00:05:35>> Which is really funny, I will say one of the pieces of advice I give people on their jobs, find something that you're really passionate about, but also find a place that you're really comfortable.
00:05:43I'm very comfortable at google because I feel I have so much in common with the people there.
00:05:50But that really sets me free.
00:05:54I think I'm much less shy there.
00:05:55People at google say what do you mean you're shy?
00:05:59>> That's what I say.
00:06:01>> But I was absolutely shy, even outside of work.
00:06:03I still am sometimes very shy.
00:06:05It's important to push yourself outside your boundaries and see what you can do.
00:06:07>> What you're really saying is, you define yourself by your job?
00:06:10Which is a danger, you're shy outside, but not at work?
00:06:15>> Well, I think that it's really for me the environments that you're in.
00:06:20For me, meeting new people, doing that thing outside of work isn't always the most comfortable.
00:06:28I think I'm just more shy by nature.
00:06:29But at work, I have so many opinions, and I have so many passion, and I really do feel very comfortable with the team there.
00:06:35And that makes me much more outspoken, much more willing to share my opinion, or really go out of my way on something.
00:06:41>> You say you can tie every single thing that google does everything in the business back to search, which of course is the main mission.
00:06:50I thought that was so interesting to other business leaders no matter what industry than you're in.
00:06:57Do you think that you need to tie all of your business back to your core focus.
00:07:00>> Well, certainly, the reason that works is because you have a core competence.
00:07:02That was probably the first thing that you did that you were really good at.
00:07:04And it's something that you can build on that, it's really a strategic advantage.
00:07:07Google's mission is to organize the world's information and make it universally successful and useful.
00:07:16For us it started with web search.
00:07:17But it brings online off line.
00:07:18Engabling advertising.
00:07:22All of that still ties back into search.
00:07:24When we google the book search, we make it searchable.
00:07:28We take that content and we put it into the main web index to enhance the answers.
00:07:31When we sell our advertisements, we actually think our advertisements are really targeted and really relevant, so much that they're like search results.
00:07:37We really do focus on how can this foster search and how can it build on what we're good at already.
00:07:45>> What do you search?
00:07:46What do you google?
00:07:46>> I do an average of 80 to 100 searches a day.
00:07:47>> For what?
00:07:49>> Everything.
00:07:50Sometimes I get interesting examples of things that work well or don't work well on google.
00:07:55My favorite search was how to tie a bow tie.
00:07:57A couple of years ago we would have given you a list of ten blue links.
00:08:01As we evolved into a universal search and bringing more content on the search page, now you get diagrams.
00:08:10You get videos.
00:08:11You actually get a video of a harvard professor teaching you how to tie a bow tie.
00:08:13I search for all kinds of things.
00:08:14But most of the things I'm curious about.
00:08:15>> You're the gatekeeper of what people see when they go to google.
00:08:17Is that a big responsibility?
00:08:19>> Yes and no.
00:08:21We have so many people at google that have great ideas.
00:08:25That it really is -- everybody at google does a great job of keeping the user in mind and really having their interests at the heart of what they're asking.
00:08:33So in many ways, it's certainly a very high-paced role, and there are a lot of different ideas, but the ideas are so good it makes it easy.
00:08:41>> You're a very young business, still but yet, you've almost got this global reach.
00:08:45How are you dealing with the scale, recruiting people around the world simultaneously, incentivizing them, making good decisions.
00:08:54How does that work for you?
00:08:59>> The scale is certainly one of the most humbling things about google.
00:09:02Its reach and overall growth pattern, some of the most challenging things in terms of making sure you have enough process and enough guidance that people know how to make good decisions, but not so much that we get in the way.
00:09:16>> How do you do it in practice?
00:09:16>> We looked at what worked for us when we were small.
00:09:18What worked for us when we were small is we had small teams, three people, four people, five people, and we gave them access to a lot of information.
00:09:26At google we manage in a way that is really flat.
00:09:30There will be one manage to 30 or 40 individuals.
00:09:33In that kind of environment, you need to be self-directed.
00:09:34Where do you get that direction from?
00:09:35We try to make as many of the business details.
00:09:36Who's doing what?
00:09:37Whose working on what.
00:09:38What's working?
00:09:39What doesn't?
00:09:40What are the experiment results we've seen available?
00:09:44So the engineers and people who build the products at google have access to that information and they can make good decisions.
00:09:52>> Let me embarrass you a little.
00:09:53>> You were already into google's aesthetic when you were 3 years old.
00:09:58There is a picture to prove that.
00:10:01>> There is.
00:10:02>> First of all, describe the picture.
00:10:03You have used this as a tool when you talk to people about google.
00:10:05>> I have a picture of me.
00:10:06I'm 3 years old.
00:10:06I'm sitting on my parents' front step.
00:10:08And I'm in this short outfit of all-google colors.
00:10:14So the primary colors with the matching hat and the matching shoes.
00:10:16>> Foreshadowing.
00:10:17>> Decorating homes like this as well.
00:10:18>> It's funny.
00:10:18People will come to my apartment and say -- for me I can't -- i do think google's aesthetic has always appealed to me.
00:10:27I didn't define it.
00:10:28It has appealed to me, even before I was at google, it did.
00:10:30I can't really tell if that's where google's aesthetic and style begins and mine ends.
00:10:36People will come over and say does your apartment look like google or does google look like your apartment?
00:10:41>> I heard when you have job candidates and you always say what is the coolest thing you saw in the last six months.
00:10:46Why do you ask that request of candidates?
00:10:49What you looking for in the answer?
00:10:53>> I think for me what I'm looking for is their imagination.
00:10:56And what fascinates them.
00:10:56The worst thing that can happen in terms of me asking that question and the candidate doing the answer, sometimes a candidate seems so over it all.
00:11:05They're so discerning.
00:11:07Well, I've seen many cool things, but it's hard to choose one.
00:11:09My standards are so high.
00:11:11I just think that the world is so fascinating.
00:11:13Every little thing that you see.
00:11:16If there's nothing something every day that captures your imagination and makes you think about what could the next big thing be, what could the next innovation be, you're missing the boat.
00:11:28>> You said you want to live in state of wonderment and awe of the world.
00:11:34This isn't an innocent young girl barefoot through the corn fields, is it?
00:11:37It's a very structured opinion on your part on how you're going to view the world and how you're going to lead?
00:11:39>> Absolutely.
00:11:40I think being curious about things.
00:11:46Being engaged about things -- >> have you worked on that?
00:11:49>> And also just being able to look at something with fresh eyes and say wow, that's a whole flu way of looking at it.
00:11:52I never thought about the fact that this technology could be applied this way or that way or, you know, you could use this physical object.
00:12:00>> What I'm driving at, this is an advanced way of thinking, this is not a naivety, you've actually put energy and time into it to develop it to that level?
00:12:08>> Well I think it makes me and other project managers good at spotting new ideas and trends.
00:12:16And it's also a more pleasant way to look at the world.
00:12:20>> Absolutely.
00:12:20>> It's very optimistic.
00:12:21It's very curious.
00:12:22Anything you that look at or touch could be the next big thing during the day.
00:12:24>> You're right.
00:12:24That's a fun way to look at the world.
00:12:25Thank you so much.
00:12:26You're going to be sticking around.
00:12:31When we come back, top leaders in tech telling us how they're finding unique ways to ensure their survival.
00:12:40>> Next, listen in on an executive strategy session as some of tech's top leaders reveal what they're doing to survive in this challenging market.
00:12:45>> The cost of failure is far lower than the cost of not trying.
00:12:47>>> Plus, more from google's marissa mayer on leading the fight against competition.
00:12:54>> We try to launch early and often.
00:14:12People think that honda is always the most fuel efficient choice.
00:14:15Well, this chevy cobalt xfe has better highway mileage than a comparable honda civic.
00:14:21This chevy traverse has better mileage than honda pilot.
00:14:25The all-new chevy equinox has better mileage than honda cr-v.
00:14:29And chevy malibu has better mileage than accord.
00:14:32However, honda does make something that we just can't compete with.
00:14:37It's self propelled.
00:14:38 compare us to anyone and may the best car win.
00:16:05>>> Welcome back to "executive " technology's leaders have made our lives more connected than ever before but they also have balance the idealism of uniting the world with the cold reality of economics.
00:16:18>> Here's what technology and consumers are facing around the globe.
00:16:22Technology, arguably the most important economic driver in the 21st century.
00:16:28Recently, one of the hardest-hit sectors in the markets.
00:16:32Tech's leaders, tasked with what consumers need to make their lives easier.
00:16:37Delivering products to save them time, keep them connected.
00:16:39And make them mobile.
00:16:45Not always easy when rivals are in hot pursuit, making similar products, selling them at lower prices, and looking for any and every opportunity to gain market share.
00:16:57The competition is fierce.
00:16:59And like death and taxes, commoditization is inevitable.
00:17:05Tech companies can run, but they can't hide.
00:17:08They're facing a paradox of you bicty, where the more evasive technology becomes, the more it cannibalizes the leaders that gave it life.
00:17:22Some stars are still managing to shine, successful with exclusive product launches, user based businesses, and collaborating with the competition.
00:17:30>> Who would have thought that microsoft would be teaming up with yahoo to go after google's dominant share of search?
00:17:39In technology, sometimes your archrival winds up being your best friend.
00:17:42>> In a chess match where strategy is key and billions of dollars are on the line, technology's leaders face huge hurdles.
00:17:49The question now, will consumer spending give tech sales the boost they need to emerge from one of the industry's greatest ever slumps.
00:17:59Tonight we have assembled some of the finest minds in technology for what we have called our executive strategy session.
00:18:10bill McDermott is president of and global field operations for , the world's largest business software company.
00:18:16After cutting thousands of jobs, as sales slumped in the recession, says it's now geared up for growth.
00:18:25Ram shriram played a key role in the early days of google, amazon and netscape.
00:18:32He now invests and advises new tech companies.
00:18:37Jean botti is chief technical officer for french german aerospace company eads, best known for airbus passenger planes.
00:18:45He joins us from singapore.
00:18:49Logitech president and ceo gerald quindlen runs the world's largest maker of computer mice.
00:18:52Plunging sales forced him to lay off 15% of his staff, but he says he knows the way back to profits.
00:18:57Jimmy wells turned his vision of a world in which everyone has free access to all knowledge into the collaborative phenomenon wikipedia.
00:19:09He's now bringing people together through the web hosting service wikia.
00:19:11>> Bill what do you think is the biggest challenge in technology right now?
00:19:14>> It's staying focused on customers.
00:19:19Right now, companies have a tendency to get very inward in their focus.
00:19:24The reality is now is the time to redouble the emphasis on the customer, and what they want is changing.
00:19:30Today, they want a return on their invested capital.
00:19:31They'll look at technology like any other investment.
00:19:33No value, no sale.
00:19:37So there is an art form between the technology, tying to a strategy to a business outcome.
00:19:41>> Ram, do you agree with that, what do you think the biggest challenge is?
00:19:43>> I think the biggest challenge is from where I come from, is innovation.
00:19:50And to continue to fund innovation through a done turn is the most important thing for any scale business.
00:19:55We look for something that is defensible.
00:19:57And that has enough of a lead in a market that consumers tend to buy, as things like the iphone have shown, people do buy expensive products even through a downturn if it's innovative enough, if it captivates their attention and actually improves their lives.
00:20:13>> Gerald, what do you think is the biggest challenge?
00:20:14>> I'm going to build on what ram said.
00:20:19I think there is a fundamental difference between new and innovative.
00:20:22Innovative is bringing benefits solving a consumer problem.
00:20:27I'm looking at this with the consumer lens because we focus on consumers.
00:20:30You need to bring products to the market.
00:20:32Not just that are new and slightly improving on the one you are replacing, but in our terminology that solves a consumer pain point and simplifies their life, gives them more free time, allows them to connect with people.
00:20:41>> One of the biggest problems i see for all of you, as soon as you come out with something good, everyone else knocks it off.
00:20:48How do you deal with that?
00:20:49How do you deal with that?
00:20:54>> One things you can do in terms of product development is what I call castle-building.
00:20:59You pull the curtains closed and try to build a product for years that is a wow.
00:21:03We're not that confident at google.
00:21:04We try to launch early and often.
00:21:06Launch something, see how the market responds to it, see how the market responds, and then build that next feature they want.
00:21:13See how they respond to that.
00:21:14If you're constantly in this process of iteration, that's what is amazing with the internet.
00:21:21So many of the products and services we use are alive and they can evolve and grow and change in response to feedback.
00:21:24>> I completely agree with marissa.
00:21:26In fact, the cost of failure is far lower than the cost of not trying.
00:21:28>> Ram, you mentioned failure and learning from mistakes.
00:21:30Obviously we're all going through a process every day.
00:21:32What would you say than at the moment?
00:21:34>> First of all, silicon valley is a state of mind, it's not a place.
00:21:38Therefore, it's been very supportive of people that fail or companies that fail, and then allow themselves to restart or individuals to rebuild in a new environment.
00:21:49So I think accepting failure inside of a company allows for innovation to thrive.
00:21:54Because you can't legislate innovation.
00:21:57It just sort of happens.
00:21:58All you can do is create an environment for it to succeed.
00:22:01And the other thing to do is to listen well and be prepared to note the mistakes you have made.
00:22:06And that requires humility.
00:22:08>> But that's so touchy-feely.
00:22:10You still have to make money.
00:22:12Failure is great as a life lesson, but you have to have all the winners, right?
00:22:16>> I agree with what both ram and marissa are saying.
00:22:24You have to take the risk, and if you're going to fail, to borrow a line, fail fast.
00:22:29>> Many of you are looking for creative ways to boost your bottom line.
00:22:31That can mean competing in each other's own backyards, or teaming up with rivals to take on an even larger foe.
00:22:35>> Reporter: When it comes to technology, cool is king.
00:22:40It's all about the newest, the fastest, the best.
00:22:43>> We think what we have done is to reinvent the thumb.
00:22:48>> This is where the world is going.
00:22:49>> It's beautiful.
00:22:54>> 200 Million nokia smart phone users will be enjoying the microsoft office experience, and we're very excited about that.
00:23:00>> Reporter: But these days to survive in the business technology, companies have to be agile, inventive and ravenous.
00:23:06>> I would be disappointed if we didn't have a decent share of that billion unit market.
00:23:12>> So ravenous in fact that they would rather get in bed with long-time rivals than give up market share, a new trend so powerful, a phenomenon now so common, it even has its own word, ko-opetition.
00:23:25>> Any deal is based on those kind of situations.
00:23:28Does it strategically fit, do you make enough money on it?
00:23:31And does it still serve your customers.
00:23:32>> Reporter: Mergers and acquisitions, alliances and partnerships, invention and implementation.
00:23:35The bottom line in today's fast-paced technology sector, it's either innovation, or it's extinction, and that's a lesson learned at cisco systems.
00:23:44Cisco systems was built on innovation.
00:23:51Its back room back and routers and switches, well they were the world's version of air traffic control, guiding, directing, and deciding how billions of bits and bytes moved from one sector of the world to another.
00:24:03The korb of its business even today.
00:24:04>> Every person, everything connected to the network.
00:24:06Our core confidence is around the network.
00:24:08>> Reporter: But when the dotcom bubble burst and cisco's profits plummeted along with everyone else, the company was able to partner, acquire and innovate its way back to the top.
00:24:22It's a strategy that drives cisco from the $7 billion it set on set box cable maker scientific atlanta to the more recent $600 million buyout of pure digital.
00:24:30The maker of those popular flip hd video cameras, a staggering 130 acquisitions since 1993 accounting for half of cisco's total revenue.
00:24:40>> We have to bulk innovate internally with our own engineering.
00:24:46We have to be able to partner well with other companies, and we have to be able to acquire well.
00:24:51>> There is this total vision that drives cisco, and it's the same thing.
00:24:53Whether you're intel, whether you're apple, you have to have a really strong vision first of where you want to take the company.
00:24:59>> Reporter: Across town at google, it's a decidedly different approach.
00:25:02It seems google is on everyone's mind because google is spreading its tentacles into everyone else's businesses.
00:25:08>> Google, in essence, will become microsoft's biggest thorn in the flesh going forward.
00:25:15r: WCH A Dramatically changing landscape in tech, key questions remain.
00:25:19How much should companies expand or contract, and should they partner or go it alone when it comes to creating the next big thing, especially when the next big thing risks becoming yesterday's news even before it's developed.
00:25:32For "executive vision," I'm jim goldman.
00:25:36>> You know, marissa, a lot of the things we saw in there, that whole idea of cockpit voice recorder o -- idea, that's aimed at you.
00:25:48Everyone is gunning at you.
00:25:49What is it like to lead, or how do you lead with a target on your back?
00:25:51>> Well, we didn't really think that, one, a lot of competition is good for the user because it makes for better products.
00:25:55Competition also gains more mind share.
00:25:56People are more aware of what is happening in the search and what is happening in our business.
00:25:59And I think that's good for everyone.
00:26:02>> No.
00:26:03They're chasing you down.
00:26:04They're trying to eat your lunch.
00:26:05Come on, that's got to be tough.
00:26:05>> I think it's important to always be cognizant that you're in a larger ecosystem.
00:26:12I would say our spv sales -- has this great saying.
00:26:18It's like driving a sports car.
00:26:18Don't look in the rear view mirror and drive off the road.
00:26:20>> Sure.
00:26:20>> So you've got to be aware of your competition, but you can't focus on them.
00:26:22>> You already worked with microsoft, don't you?
00:26:25How do you see this developing?
00:26:26>> Our biggest competitor is microsoft, and it's also one of our biggest partners.
00:26:33We worked with them, as we have, on every operating system launch on windows 7.
00:26:38To try to bring the best of that out for consumers.
00:26:39>> At the heart of what we're talking about is the trust that leadership has to have that what used to be proprietary information I'm prepared to put out there in what you call the ecosystem.
00:26:52>> I think it's the nature of the beast.
00:26:54Marissa said it.
00:26:55>> But it's a fundamental seismic shift?
00:26:56>> I think it's been going on for a while.
00:26:57We've been competing and cooperating with microsoft for a decade.
00:26:59It's not a new thing for us.
00:26:59It's the way of life.
00:27:00We're used to it at this point.
00:27:02>> Simon, the vertically integrated stacks of the 20th century where companies try to do everything on an end to end basis is a dead model.
00:27:10These companies that open up to a healthy ecosystem, that do what is in the interest of the customer, by industry and by segment, they're going to execute beautifully and give the customer the most value win.
00:27:25>> Jimmy, your whole business is based on that principle.
00:27:26>> Our core has always been let's share knowledge.
00:27:27The does that hurt us in the market?
00:27:28Does that help news the market?
00:27:29We don't really think than.
00:27:34What we do know is our customers love it.
00:27:35The people who use the site love it.
00:27:37As long as we stay true to that passion, then we'll remain a leader.
00:27:39>> Jean, what is the view at eads on this?
00:27:41>> For sure we need to protect ourselves.
00:27:44This is a business that obviously is very difficult.
00:27:49It takes long years, a lot of development, a lot of money being invested in there.
00:27:55So for us, it's important to have collaboration.
00:27:58And we do, but not on the core businesses.
00:28:01Everybody tries to protect themselves, because as you can imagine, in the defense area, for example, there are things that are very specific and that are very particular on the company you're into.
00:28:14That in our industry, you cannot share.
00:28:15>> This is a leadership issue, and a culture issue.
00:28:18On the leadership side, the leader has to set the tempo for what kind of business model you're going to create around your customers and around your ecosystem.
00:28:29On the culture side, you have to believe that being a good partner is a force multiplier.
00:28:32>> Next, technology may transform our lives for the better, but how are its leaders dealing with its unintended consequences?
00:28:39>> Now you need to take a role that says I'm going to be proactive and lead the way.
00:28:43>> And later, our panel takes on a leadership challenge from a harvard professor.
00:28:47>> How will you compete against free?
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00:32:22>>> Welcome back to "executive " >> technological innovation has transformed our lives for the better.
00:32:26But that process has come with a price.
00:32:27Pollution.
00:32:28Take a look.
00:32:31>> Faster, more mobile and in realtime, we all benefit from the torrent of technological advances, but there is a downside -- pollution.
00:32:45>> Our future on this planet depends on our willingness to address the challenge posed by carbon pollution.
00:32:49>> It's not just manufacturing the plastic and the metals that makes up the devices, it's generating the power they run on and that cools them.
00:33:00>> The information and communications technology industry emits about 2% of the global c 02 gases around the world, which is about the same as the airline industry, which is a big problem.
00:33:13>> Microsoft is working on the problem.
00:33:14>> We actually create tools where I can go in and look and say, how do we drive better efficiency?
00:33:16Or how do we change the power supply so that it produces even less carbon dioxide?
00:33:21>> That means cutting emissions from manufacturing equipment down the supply chain, and getting employees to change their behavior, like switching off when they leave.
00:33:30Then there are the data centers, also called serve-a-thons, processing and storing information for the next.
00:33:41To stop serve-a-thons overheating, you need to artificially cool air and pump it over them.
00:33:47The solution, put your computing power where it's nighttime in the world, at the very least you can use cut-price off-peak electricity to cool the air.
00:33:52If it's not cold enough already.
00:33:54>> So one area for example is where do you even locate your data center.
00:33:58So one of the areas we have recently located a data center is in ireland.
00:34:02And what we do there is we take advantage of the fact that there is a lot of cool, fresh air in ireland.
00:34:06>> But rather an island, why not go all the way, iceland.
00:34:11>> Because iceland has an average ambient temperature of about 50 degrees all year round.
00:34:16It allows for a frequent zone of free cooling for the computer servers.
00:34:21And at the ultimate development of the campus, it will be greater than half a million square feet of data space.
00:34:27>> So far few leaders have shipped their servers all the way north, but apparently things look promising.
00:34:32>> We're working with our customers presently and anticipate an announcement shortly.
00:34:38>> Critical to any move, the cost of the fiberoptic to make the international connections.
00:34:44Experts say for now only three things matter -- location, location, location.
00:34:49>> People are building their data centers close to where they've always been, close to their headquarters, close to where their key people reside, irrespective of the issues, and of energy costs and even terrorist attacks and other factors.
00:35:12MOST OF THE CIOs WILL FOCUS Primarily on cost.
00:35:16If they can spend a little bit of money and get benefits, they will do.
00:35:18But they will not spend vast sums to be able to do good for the environment.
00:35:21>> So with digital storage riding dramatically, how should they react?
00:35:24What is the smart trade-off between the short-term cost base and the cost that might be paid by our children?
00:35:28>> You know all of that sort of begs the question, marissa.
00:35:30As a tech leader, do you feel a responsibility to do something about the environment?
00:35:33Is there a moral responsibility or not?
00:35:35>> I was really proud of google when we went green in june of 2007.
00:35:39And when you look at where we located our data centers, we use wind power.
00:35:43We use water power to basically power our search.
00:35:50And I think that that's really, really important.
00:35:51We have also put out challenges to the energy community to try to come up with cleaner, inexpensive ways of generating electricity.
00:35:56I think that it's easy in software and on the internet.
00:35:58Everything feels so clean.
00:36:00I was really struck at one point when I learned that one megabyte of information being downloaded basically puts as much carbon in the air as one charcoal brick.
00:36:11>> There are several things.
00:36:12We focus on three areas.
00:36:13One is products themselves.
00:36:17We focused on making them more environmentally friendly.
00:36:19The second thing is just our basic infrastructure, focusing on our manufacturing and our operations in general, making them more eco friendly.
00:36:24And then looking at your carbon footprint in aggregate.
00:36:27>> Bill?
00:36:28>> Sustainability is the biggest leadership issue in the next decade.
00:36:30You have to do two things.
00:36:31One you have to have a sustainable business model, and you're going to have to innovate your business model to keep it your companies going strong, ours included.
00:36:42Secondly, you have got to reduce carbon emissions in these companies.
00:36:44We're committed to doing that by cutting it in half over the next years.
00:36:47What we're doing specifically with customers is environmental for this, and also carbon management, reduction of the footprint.
00:37:01>> I think the biggest thing we can do as leaders is two words.
00:37:02Be proactive as opposed to being reactive.
00:37:03In the past companies had to be dragged to the issue.
00:37:05They did the minimum they had to make the issue go away.
00:37:09Now you need to take a role that says I'm going to be proactive and lead the way and drive my company.
00:37:16Jean who is sitting there in singapore.
00:37:20>> If I may, let me bring in -- specifically a mechanical engineer in this, jean, I'm appreciative of your view.
00:37:23>> It's paramount to remaster completely the energy management in the airplanes, helicopters, and other products.
00:37:32We want to remove, you know, our industry from the environmental equation, even if we're only 3% of the problem.
00:37:36So this keeps me awake at night, to be frank with you.
00:37:38>> One of the things we did too is built a platinum leed facility, leed certified.
00:37:48It runs on natural water, natural light and uses very little electricity to run an entire building.
00:37:51So I think you've got to be a role model and make the investments that really count for being a sustainable role model company.
00:37:55You can't do enough of it.
00:37:56>> Interesting ideas from all of you.
00:37:58Up next, they're among technology's visionaries.
00:38:01But can they solve the leadership challenge we have in store for them?
00:38:04Find out when we come back.
00:38:08>> Next, harvard's ranjay gulati assigns a challenge to solve in realtime.
00:38:14>> The issue is execution.
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00:41:50He's a professor of business administration at harvard business school and the author of the forthcoming book " ranjay gulati has been listening from harvard, and he joins us now to present our leadership challenge for the panel.
00:42:04>> It's a great conversation.
00:42:05I'm delighted to have had a chance to observe it.
00:42:09The challenge I have is as follows.
00:42:10You are the ceo of a software firm that sells to small and medium enterprises.
00:42:16You're a market leader.
00:42:18Margins are very good, but you have a recent challenge.
00:42:21Your immediate rival whose software is just about as good s a yours has decided to pursue a new strategy.
00:42:31They are going to license that software on an open license which means they're going to give it away for free.
00:42:35They're also going to allow the user community to develop on it, share the cord, and they're going to work on the community.
00:42:46They themselves are going make money with service, you know, installation, maintenance services.
00:42:50How will you compete against free?
00:42:51>> What do you think, marissa?
00:42:52>> One thing to do when you're trying to understand big shifts in your business is look at eventualities that exist out there.
00:42:59For example in search, how much should we personalize search.
00:43:04Think well, will the search engine in 2020 or 2025 be personalized?
00:43:07Obviously it will be.
00:43:08In this challenge I would look at this and say well do, we think that this product eventually be l be open source?
00:43:13Probably it will be because most software is actually more agile and evolves more quickly when it is.
00:43:22And also look at some of the other eventualities in the business.
00:43:24Can you use the internet to distribute your software?
00:43:26So you can actually download it over the web.
00:43:27Can you have the service that provides leverage the internet, either for storage or functionality or computation.
00:43:33Because I think when you look at the trend, overall, the power of the internet when revised from the storage computation distribution is really, really strong, and probably an eventuality for most package software sellers.
00:43:46>> Bill, attack the problem.
00:43:48>> Well, the issue is it's not just about the technology.
00:43:49>> No.
00:43:50>> So clearly, if the technology was free, and that was good enough, somebody is going to take the free product.
00:43:56The issue is execution.
00:43:56How?
00:43:58How do you do it?
00:44:00So the reality is nobody invests in software and technology unless they're going to get a return on their invested capital, unless your solution is different and it gives the customer a competitive advantage, and it gives them the ability to excel in their industry with best practices even next practices in a constant flow of innovation and change, so they're dynamic and agile in this marketplace.
00:44:26You're irrelevant anyway.
00:44:27My idea is real simple.
00:44:27If open source provides a certain service, embrace that, partner with that, and differentiate on the edges of execution where you really add benefit and change the way companies run their business fundamentally.
00:44:42>> Ram, that enough?
00:44:43Would it win the challenge?
00:44:43>> It may not.
00:44:44If you're an established company selling a lot of licensed software and your revenue depended on it, what this challenge didn't say whether that was a public company or not.
00:44:48It does matter.
00:44:50If they were not a public company, I would embrace the open source model and shift my model and shift my model to that model and do a lot of scenario planning around how to get revenue from other sources.
00:45:04Possibly services revenue.
00:45:06Probably contiguous product areas that I could get into building on top of the open source.
00:45:09So embrace and extend would be the model if I was a private company in this space.
00:45:16>> What if you're public?
00:45:18>> If I was a public company, it's much harder to make that challenge, because on the one side, you're going to be hemorrhaging revenues because you're shifting to an open source mod federal a licensed source model.
00:45:30And that can be a painful transition.
00:45:35But I think it's inevitable.
00:45:36>> Okay.
00:45:38>> Jimmy, how do you feel about this in silicon valley?
00:45:40>> Well, I mean, it's a funny question for me because my whole career has been built on being that second guy who came along and opened source to everything.
00:45:49Britannica, or you look at wikia versus the industry, I'm really pushing forward this open source, share everything, all our software is open, all of the data is open.
00:45:58So it's kind of hard for me to put myself in the shoes of britannica and how do they compete against wikipedia?
00:46:02I think they just have to give up.
00:46:05It's hopeless, and embrace it.
00:46:08I think a lot of companies have failed and will continue to fail because they're not recognizing that this change is really fundamental.
00:46:14>> Gerald, what do you think about the way they're attacking the problem?
00:46:16Right or wrong?
00:46:18>> I think a lot of good ideas.
00:46:19The first thing I would say since the subtext of the discussion is leadership, pretty sure the first thing we would all do is gather the smartest minds we know in a room to help us think through.
00:46:32Because one thing we all have in common, none of us have solved these big issues by ourselves.
00:46:36I would get some of the smartest engineers in our company and say look, we have a real challenge here.
00:46:38One of the things I say, maybe it's my default, but I always default to finding more ways to add value through innovation to the existing product.
00:46:46We fight every day with some really, really low-priced competitors.
00:46:50It's not quite free, but it's pretty far down there.
00:46:53And yet we find ways to beat them them all the time by adding value to our products and differentiating and adding to the brand.
00:46:58>> Professor, what did they miss?
00:47:02What did they forget?
00:47:04>> They raise issues, the four Cs, CORE, CREATIVITY, Innovation, customer, collaboration, I've heard carbon.
00:47:12But in the end, it's about execution.
00:47:14Can you walk?
00:47:15Not just stop.
00:47:20Make sure we come clear on.
00:47:21>> On the money with that one.
00:47:26>> Hey, look, it's all about getting that customer business benefit.
00:47:28If you don't help them execute, you're irrelevant.
00:47:31>> We'll be right back with final thoughts on leadership from our panel.
00:47:37That was fun, right?
00:47:38>> Thank you.
00:47:39>> It was good, very good.
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00:51:09>>> Welcome back to "executive " it's time for some final thoughts on leadership from our panel.
00:51:13Marissa, let's kick off with you.
00:51:14>> I think one thing that it's reinforced by the discussion for me is focussing on the user.
00:51:20The user and the customer is what ultimately makes you relevant.
00:51:23But also optimism.
00:51:24I think that one of the things that leaders do is paint a bright vision for the future.
00:51:29And be that around innovation or future of the teams or why being green is important, being able to have that bright vision for the future that you can really bring forth for the team to have people rally around is important.
00:51:46>> John, give us the final thought.
00:51:47>> Well, for me it's you have to be a preacher almost on those things.
00:51:49If you believe in what you're doing innovation, you really have to keep pushing on this because you're finding your way.
00:51:55Plenty of people that will explain to you why it cannot be done.
00:51:59And you really have to believe when you do innovations, you know, you have to really push through and just, you know, go to the goal.
00:52:07>> Ram, final thought from you.
00:52:12>> Well, a good leader would inspire the team, not manage through fear, would essentially bask in the reflected glory of their success, of the team's success, and therefore not take credit for those success, but let the team take credit.
00:52:24And not deflect blame, but take responsibility.
00:52:25>> Interesting.
00:52:26Bill?
00:52:27>> Leaders build great cultures.
00:52:29So number one, put people first.
00:52:31The ultimate competitive differentiation is the quality of your people.
00:52:35Whether you get them out of university mba schools or simply from the industry, you must train them and teach them how to learn and grow around your product, to value proposition to the customer, and ultimately the manner which the customer consumes value.
00:52:49They have to be obsessed with this.
00:52:51And that is a culture issue only leaders can do.
00:52:56>> Jimmy, final thought from you.
00:52:58>> You can only lead people where they really want to go already.
00:53:00So you have to have a vision that people can buy into that there is real sincere, authentic passion throughout the entire community of your employees, your customers, everybody, because if you're not leading people where they want to go, you'll never do it.
00:53:12>> Jerry?
00:53:14>> I boil it down to I think leaders have responsibility to lead change, to drive change, and to help other people adapt to change.
00:53:20In technology, change is constant.
00:53:22So I think that is our biggest challenge is helping people adapt to change.
00:53:25>> We have reached the end of our hour.
00:53:27Thank you all for being on our panel today.
00:53:28Much, much appreciated.
00:53:30If you want more on leadership at home, specifically in technology, then head to executivevision.cnbc.com.
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