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| 00:02:35 | Nate after defting five term
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| 00:02:41 | Go to he yo bac onhe
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| 00:02:45 | Congratulations.
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| 00:02:45 | >> Thank you, it'sreat to be
back.
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| 00:02:48 | I wl not ask you about
the white house staff, we know
that story.
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| 00:02:53 | Halfthe -- this story seems to
beo old that are talking
about the other guy the white
house offered job to to get
him out of his ce.
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| 00:03:05 | I want to ask you what you make
of the republican effts on the
ll to turn this into something
more.
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| 00:03:14 | >> I am not surprised.
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| 00:03:16 | I have only been in washington a
couple of years but I have
watched
when someone doesn't have
something to run on they turn
their attenti away from it.
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| 00:03:28 | It ripped this economy open.
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| 00:03:36 | They just want to talk about
politics, gamesmanship.
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| 00:03:41 | Come on up here to pennsylvania.
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| 00:03:44 | I remember seeing a farmer.
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| 00:03:46 | I asked him how the recession
was.
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| 00:03:48 | I will never forget his reply,
not too bad.
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| 00:03:52 | I was hurting so much already.
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| 00:03:56 | Washington is not working.
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| 00:03:57 | We will change it.
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| 00:03:59 | 1 relabel to defeat arlen
specter?
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| 00:04:04 | >> I have a lot of support.
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| 00:04:08 | The people felt like I did.
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| 00:04:11 | -- Why were you able to defeat
arlen specter?
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| 00:04:16 | >> The focus got off people.
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| 00:04:18 | The focus got off where people
in washington no longer were
politicians, they were public
servants.
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| 00:04:26 | They could sense when a captain
was in it for them.
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| 00:04:30 | I think people in pennsylvania
became to recognize somehow
washington was no longer more
concerned about their jobs than
they were about their own.
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| 00:04:44 | If I learned anything in the
navy, it is that one has to be
accountable for one's actions.
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| 00:04:51 | Where is the accountability for
what happened in the gulf or on
wall street where so many voted
to dismantle the regulations?
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| 00:04:59 | And people have to work beyond
65 because they lost their
savings.
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| 00:05:04 | Iran not for my own job in
congress.
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| 00:05:08 | I wanted to show people I like
to serve at the accountable in
terms of its about your job and
not mine.
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| 00:05:16 | That is what you are seeing.
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| 00:05:19 | a couple of other
questions.
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| 00:05:22 | Arlen specter is not the only
example of one who switched
parties in this election season.
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| 00:05:30 | What is the lesson to those who
think switching parties to
prolong one's career is
strategically the right thing to
do?
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| 00:05:40 | What is the message to them?
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| 00:05:43 | >> If one switches a party out
of conviction will be for any
election that is different, but
I think the larger lesson is to
the party establishment.
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| 00:05:56 | Those who actually welcome a
political calculation for a 68
votes -- 60th vote.
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| 00:06:06 | Sometimes the party asks too
much.
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| 00:06:12 | My party -- I went to washington
and they think they were given a
mandate to do something.
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| 00:06:17 | We were given an opportunity to
lead.
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| 00:06:20 | Leadership means listening and
stating where you are.
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| 00:06:24 | Don't do things because of
political calculation.
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| 00:06:28 | I do believe in a principled
compromise, but not a compromise
of principle.
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| 00:06:35 | If you're in it for convictions,
people know that.
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| 00:06:38 | was in a principled
compromise both did that --
given that he had voted for
them on the stimulus package
that allow the white house to
get behind arlen specter so
aggressively then he switched
parties when they knew he was
doing ed -- >> doing it just to
win.
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| 00:07:02 | Was it a principled compromise
or a compromise of principle for
them to get behind them?
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| 00:07:11 | >> I think it was about an
establishment that literally
had politics and vote counting
above principled compromise.
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| 00:07:24 | I have great respect for people
in washington, but I disagree.
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| 00:07:28 | I would argue if you had someone
like senator kennedy -- if he
had been in that senate you
could do a principled
compromise.
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| 00:07:39 | Senator mccain on immigration.
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| 00:07:42 | George bush on education.
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| 00:07:44 | We would have been so much more
rewarded for having had more
worries about shaping that
policy.
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| 00:07:50 | How could we have begun witte
that 60 to put all the way down
-- begun with that 60th vote.
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| 00:08:03 | That means we are paying higher
premiums.
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| 00:08:06 | That is what my party should
stand for.
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| 00:08:08 | you are making the
example about president
kennedy, but I am asking aut a
obama.
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| 00:08:19 | You said you don't think it was
criminal of them trying to get
you out of the race.
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| 00:08:25 | What do you think about the way
they sell aggressively got
behind and endorsed arlen
specter when they knew he was
only switching parties because
he wanted to win?
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| 00:08:36 | >> I think it was wrong.
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| 00:08:38 | There is no more king's.
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| 00:08:41 | If the democratic party should
stand for anything, they should
be for enticing people into the
race.
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| 00:08:49 | I believe the president believes
it.
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| 00:08:55 | The party was wrong in what it
did.
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| 00:08:59 | you mentioned earlier the
gulf war that we are involved in
iraq and afghanistan.
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| 00:09:07 | This war has hit the 104th
month today.
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| 00:09:12 | This is now the longest war and
all of u.s. history.
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| 00:09:16 | How should the american people
read that?
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| 00:09:20 | >> I read it right now as, do we
have an exit strategy?
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| 00:09:27 | I believe the public wants to
know.
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| 00:09:29 | The president has not yet
provided it.
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| 00:09:33 | I wrote a letter asking for the
exit strategy we were promised.
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| 00:09:40 | And I supported this president
for one reason, to seal the
border between afghanistan and
pakistan because it's a safe
haven of al qaeda where we cannot go.
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| 00:09:52 | Sealing the border to convince
pakistan to exterminate that
safe haven to where they cannot
-- pakistan will not do it then.
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| 00:10:05 | Sealing the border was
important, but I know we have to
have benchmarks measuring
success and failure.
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| 00:10:14 | This cannot be an open-ended
commitment.
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| 00:10:16 | My support for this cannot be
open ended either.
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| 00:10:20 | We have poured too much treasure
into this conflict not to know
if we are being successful.
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| 00:10:27 | should president obama
give the american people a
certain date?
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| 00:10:33 | >> I don't believe we should yet
do that.
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| 00:10:36 | Benchmarks that show whether we
are exterminating the safe
haven, whether pakistan is true
the moving from south to north
in order to help exterminate it.
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| 00:10:49 | Those benchmarks of success are
what we need.
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| 00:10:56 | We have the leadership of al
qaeda there that can plan
against us.
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| 00:11:01 | When I went on the ground for a
short time at the beginning of
that war -- I will never forget
what I heard from the head of
the national security agency.
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| 00:11:13 | He said, general frank keeps
saying give us and some -- give
us some intelligence.
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| 00:11:26 | If we don't have some boots on
the ground to make al qaeda
moved so we can pick them up in
order to exterminate them, then
we cannot give a date certain.
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| 00:11:38 | We need to see if we are being
successful.
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| 00:11:43 | Ultimately without that
benchmark, then you move to a
date certain.
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| 00:11:48 | >> I mentioned iraq and
afghanistan.
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| 00:11:53 | -- Tavis: iraq came later.
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| 00:11:58 | I have about a minute to go.
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| 00:12:00 | Let me ask you about bp oil
spill and what you would be
calling for if you were a member
of the u.s. senate.
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| 00:12:13 | There are some who believe it
will not happen because the oil
spill has pushed everything to
the side.
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| 00:12:20 | >> Financial reform must happen.
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| 00:12:24 | We took them off the football
field in wall street.
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| 00:12:27 | We must have regulation up
there.
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| 00:12:30 | I learned expect what you
inspect.
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| 00:12:33 | That must go through.
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| 00:12:35 | To let any special interest stop
us is wrong.
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| 00:12:39 | I believe very strongly that
democrats have to understand
that service truly needs to be
divided.
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| 00:12:47 | How could they ever happened --
have permitted to that oil
companies -- there is so much to
be done to correct
accountability.
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| 00:13:03 | That is what this election was
about.
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| 00:13:06 | I believe that is what people
are saying.
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| 00:13:11 | Accountability, not just
responsibility.
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| 00:13:14 | From wall street down to bp down
to the senators.
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| 00:13:20 | I am glad to have you
back and I look forward to
talking to you.
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| 00:13:26 | Good to have you on.
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| 00:13:29 | >> Thank you.
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| 00:13:30 | remembering an american
sports icon, john wooden.
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| 00:13:37 | Stay with us.
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| 00:13:40 | Despite these troubles of john
wooden's early life, he never
lost a sense of optimism.
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| 00:13:54 | His father stressed hard work
and the value of education.
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| 00:13:58 | In 2005 this man joined us for a
conversation about his most
enduring life lessons and the
importance of leadership.
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| 00:14:09 | I began by asking him to recount
a story from 1946 when he
refused an invitation to take
his team to a post-season
tournament because african-
american players were not
allowed to compete.
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| 00:14:24 | Tell me what you remember about
this story in indiana?
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| 00:14:28 | >> I have [unintelligible]
he was on my team and he was not
one of the ones who got to play
very much.
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| 00:14:42 | They would not let him come so i
could not go to the tournament.
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| 00:14:45 | The next year we had a better
tournament -- we had a better
year and we were invited again
but I refused.
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| 00:14:55 | The naacp thought it would be a
good thing.
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| 00:14:58 | They let me bring him.
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| 00:15:00 | He could not stay in the hotel.
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| 00:15:03 | He could have his meals there,
but provided weaver have -- we
were in a private room brit we
had no problems whatsoever.
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| 00:15:13 | -- Private room.
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| 00:15:15 | We have troubles driving.
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| 00:15:17 | Various places wouldn't let him
eat.
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| 00:15:20 | A few years later the entire
team won the championship.
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| 00:15:25 | I am proud of the fact that
think we opened the door.
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| 00:15:29 | you should be proud of
that.
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| 00:15:32 | You are the guy who would not
even start him.
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| 00:15:36 | >> He played very little.
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| 00:15:38 | We lost in the championship
game to the university of
louisville.
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| 00:15:44 | when you were growing up
your father gave you a cad and
it was his own personal seven.
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| 00:15:56 | Craig.
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| 00:15:59 | -- 7 Point creed.
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| 00:16:03 | When he graduated from
elementary school it contained
practical advice.
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| 00:16:09 | It is dead gave this to him when
he graduated.
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| 00:16:11 | There were several -- his dad
gave it to him.
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| 00:16:17 | The first one on your card is to
be true to yourself.
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| 00:16:21 | >> If you are true to yourself
you will be true to everyone
else.
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| 00:16:31 | Neither a borrower nor a leader
-- nor a lender [unintelligible]
it must follow [unintelligible]
I believe that's true.
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| 00:16:48 | the second thing on your
ad's card, make every day your
masterpiece.
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| 00:16:59 | >> We may not have the same
abilities but we all have an
equal chance to make the most of
what we have.
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| 00:17:05 | That became a philosophy in my
teaching.
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| 00:17:09 | Whether it be teaching english
classes or athletics.
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| 00:17:13 | Just do the best you can.
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| 00:17:14 | Tavis: help others.
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| 00:17:19 | >> This definitely comes from
doing something for others,
especially when it was done with
no thought of something in
return.
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| 00:17:27 | >> Drink deeply from good books,
including the good book.
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| 00:17:32 | >> All your answers are in
there.
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| 00:17:36 | You will find them somewhere if
you just look and try to
understand you don't have to
necessarily understand
completely.
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| 00:17:45 | make friendship a fine
art.
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| 00:17:50 | >> Never take it for granted.
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| 00:17:53 | Friendship is two cited.
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| 00:17:56 | -- Two-sided.
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| 00:18:01 | Just like marriage is a two-
sided.
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| 00:18:05 | build shelter for a rainy
day.
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| 00:18:09 | >> For the life you lead in the
hopes of an internal shelter.
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| 00:18:16 | Socrates was facing imminent
death and his yielders could
not understand -- they asked him
why he was not preparing for
death.
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| 00:18:25 | He said I have been preparing
for death all my life.
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| 00:18:29 | 34 guidance and give
thanks to your blessings.
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| 00:18:35 | -- Pray for guidance.
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| 00:18:44 | >> But we should give thanks to
each and every day and prayed
for guidance.
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| 00:18:52 | these things are not just
admirable, and they are
instructive, but I -- your
record speaks for itself, but at
any point in your life did your
friends or players think that
you were a little corny?
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| 00:19:11 | He is just too on the straight
and narrow.
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| 00:19:16 | Did they ever laugh at you?
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| 00:19:18 | >> I'm sure some of them did.
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| 00:19:22 | When louis cantu los angeles
when he was interviewed -- louis
came to los angeles.
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| 00:19:33 | >> That is nice.
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| 00:19:36 | Do you think he was commanding
you?
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| 00:19:39 | I am taking it that way.
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| 00:19:41 | I am sure.
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| 00:19:43 | with regard to the
leadership, you argue that the
motion can be your enemy.
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| 00:19:53 | >> When the emotion takes over
reason flies out the window.
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| 00:19:59 | You cannot make good decisions
that are going to be productive
when you lose control.
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| 00:20:06 | You have to maintain mental
control, emotional control and
to be able to perform physically
you have to keep your emotions
under control.
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| 00:20:18 | I wonder how much you
have garnered over the years in
terms of the sports arena is
applicable elsewhere.
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| 00:20:28 | >> I think it's applicable in
the most important place, in the
home.
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| 00:20:32 | Parenting is the most important
profession.
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| 00:20:37 | It's applicable in business
professions.
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| 00:20:42 | I think it would be -- if heads
of state throughout this world
fall a bit more we would have
less problems -- follow it a
little more.
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| 00:21:01 | Primarily be more considerate of
others.
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| 00:21:04 | I hear this and that
being more consider it.
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| 00:21:09 | This is a massive question.
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| 00:21:12 | When you critique leadership in
the world today and I know this
is not a one-size-fits-all, when
you critique leaders today what
most troubles you about the way
that we devalues what leadership
is opposed debate?
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| 00:21:28 | >> I think many drivers lead and
I don't like that particular
method.
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| 00:21:33 | what is the difference
between driving and leaving?
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| 00:21:39 | >> Driving is more forceful.
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| 00:21:44 | The @ front
and say follow me.
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| 00:21:50 | Tavis: that was pretty good.
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| 00:21:53 | That would explain it.
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| 00:21:56 | The way we approach leadership
today is the wrong approach?
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| 00:22:02 | >> For many, not for everybody.
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| 00:22:06 | The true leader is not really
looking for leadership.
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| 00:22:10 | He is trying to set an example.
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| 00:22:17 | When the followers get something
done if the leader has been what
he should, they will feel like
they did it.
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| 00:22:23 | you have been living a
lot longer than I have, but my
sense is a lot of people today
denigrate leaders.
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| 00:22:33 | They denigrate individuals who
are leaders, but everybody still
craves leadership.
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| 00:22:41 | We need to be led, do we not?
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| 00:22:45 | >> Unquestionably, not everyone
is equipped to be a leader, but
everyone is a leader to someone.
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| 00:22:53 | I think parents are a leader to
youngsters.
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| 00:22:57 | Teachers are leaders.
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| 00:22:58 | Businessmen are leaders.
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| 00:23:00 | Everyone is a leader to someone
and everyone should take that
and realize that and conduct
themselves in a manner that is
conducive to the welfare of the
younger people coming up.
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| 00:23:15 | Tavis: two exit questions.
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| 00:23:21 | You are a legend in your own
time.
|
| 00:23:25 | I joked at the top that you
forbade me from saying the
wizard of westwood, because you
don't like that.
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| 00:23:33 | Why don't you like that?
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| 00:23:35 | >> I think the fellows who wrote
the book were -- I didn't like
it then and they knew I didn't
like it.
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| 00:23:46 | It connotes some wizardry that
we did well -- [unintelligible]
those people under your
supervision you would like to
feel you have helped.
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| 00:23:59 | there is a lot of
conversation, particularly as
you advance in age, but still
conversation about what your
legacy really is.
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| 00:24:13 | What does john wooden won his
legacy to be?
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| 00:24:18 | >> I would just like to be it --
like to be thought of as
someone considered to others.
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| 00:24:29 | Your faith, family and friends.
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| 00:24:31 | they were all key
components of john wooden's
pyramid of success.
|
| 00:24:40 | When asked to name his favorite
phrase, failing to prepare it is
failing -- is preparing to fail.
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| 00:24:50 | John wooden passed away friday
night at the age of 99.
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| 00:24:56 | That is our show for tonight.
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| 00:24:59 | As always, keep the faith.
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| 00:25:08 | >> For more information on
org
join me next time with
michael hiltzik and diane
warren.
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| 00:25:22 | That's next time, we will see
you then.
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| 00:25:26 | >> All I know is his name is
james, and he needs extra help
with his reading.
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| 00:25:29 | >> I am james.
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| 00:25:29 | >> Yes.
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| 00:25:32 | >> To everyone making a
difference, you help us all
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