| 00:00:00 | Ncisco.
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| 00:00:00 | We will talk with richard, the
name on his plane, richard lui
is my my other ride's a space
ship, which is a rare privilege
that one can put that on their
mode of transportation.
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| 00:00:10 | We will talk budget.
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| 00:00:11 | The megapanel in affect,
christine fair in afghanistan.
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| 00:00:15 | I thank you, richard.
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| 00:00:15 | The show starts right now.
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| 00:00:26 | >>> The big story right now, the
budget standoff.
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| 00:00:32 | Good afternoon to you, I'm dylan
ratigan.
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| 00:00:34 | Just two days now for democrats
and republicans, our favorite
pro wrestling teams to, strike a
deal and avoid a government shut
down.
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| 00:00:42 | Right now the political
posturing continues in the
house, in the senate, into
matter, and with the president.
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| 00:00:47 | Gop leadership, of course, very
much involved.
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| 00:00:50 | They all emerged from a
closed-door meeting a few
moments ago with the latest.
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| 00:00:55 | >> I like the president
personally.
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| 00:00:57 | We get along well.
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| 00:00:59 | But the president isn't leading.
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| 00:01:02 | He isn't didn't lead on last
year's budget and he clearly is
ing on this year's
budget.
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| 00:01:11 | >> We agreed to a compromise but
somehow we still don't have a
deal because some folks are
trying inject politics into what
should be a simple debate about
how to bay pay our bills.
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| 00:01:23 | >> This afternoon, republicans
and tea parties holding a rally
in front of the capital calling
on senator harry reid to give in
or step aside.
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| 00:01:30 | Meantime you can the president
on the road today, if no deal is
struck by the time he gets back
the town, they say there will be
late-night meetings at the white
house.
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| 00:01:39 | All of this of course,
tremendously dramatic and
entertaining political theater
playing out with no
considerationing whatsoever for
the massive amount of money, the
trillions that are sucked out of
our economy by these wars or
wildly inefficient energy
structure or the exploding costs
of american health care.
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| 00:01:57 | My goodness that would be hard.
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| 00:02:00 | Joining us now, luke russert
live on capitol hill following
the budget action or inaction or
disshrank, depending on your
point of view.
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| 00:02:09 | >> All of it.
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| 00:02:10 | Yeah.
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| 00:02:10 | >> Tell me what I need to know.
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| 00:02:12 | >> Well what you need to know,
speaker boehner just went before
the congressional press corps
and said tomorrow, house
republicans will offer a
temporary one-week extension of
government funding that would
cut $12 billion for the rest of
fiscal year 2011 as well as fund
the department of defense
through the fiscal year that
will push back on criticism
folks are saying, look if there
is a government shut down,
troops will not receive their
pay, we should figuring your
this out and get that issue off
the table.
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| 00:02:39 | The problem with this temporary
solution, dylan is that harry
reid and the white house have
said it is a nonstarter.
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| 00:02:44 | 12 Billion more in additional
cuts put the number up to 22
billion made from this fiscal
year.
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| 00:02:49 | House democrats as well as the
president and the senate do not
want to see that because they
believe it would really hurt
their negotiating leverage
moving forward.
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| 00:02:57 | So the question now is, it is a
battle against the clock.
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| 00:02:59 | Because this most likely will
have no chance in the united
states senate, it becomes what
exactly will happen with the
negotiations?
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| 00:03:06 | They are ongoing through this
evening I'm told by a gop aide.
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| 00:03:09 | House appropriators and senate
appropriators meeting in the
daylight hours to tomorrow,
possibly and see what we can get
friday.
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| 00:03:15 | Each hour that goes by,
procedurally, it gets more
difficult to avoid a government
shutdown.
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| 00:03:20 | >> Indeed.
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| 00:03:22 | Thank you, luke.
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| 00:03:23 | Before we are joined by senator
tom coburn from the republican
party, I want to give you two
seconds, you don't believe me, i
can't talk for two seconds, i
will attempt as to why I find
this whole thing so absurd.
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| 00:03:34 | We have trillions of dollars in
problems, we know this health
care, I mentioned.
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| 00:03:41 | Right?
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| 00:03:41 | At the same time, we have a
bunnell debate which could be a
debate about why health care
costs so much, what are we
spending on these wars?
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| 00:03:48 | What is going on with the energy
infrastructure what is going on
on the banking systems, none of
those things -- social security,
not happening.
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| 00:03:55 | Instead, as I see it the bunnell
debate has been taken up as a
political prop, fearmongering,
oh, my goodness, what happens if
we don't deal with the budget as
a which to play games funding
for politically unpopular or
popular things ranging from the
epa to planned parenthood or
whatever else nothing to do with
the budget but the budget debate
such a great opportunity to,
well, create these distractions
and in the process, avoid the
budget debate.
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| 00:04:22 | The budget debate, right?
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| 00:04:24 | Joining us, tom coburn from
oklahoma.
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| 00:04:27 | My bet, senator, you don't
disagree with what I said too
much.
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| 00:04:30 | >> Not too much.
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| 00:04:30 | >> What do we do about it?
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| 00:04:32 | In other words, how do we --
forget are we gonna shut it
down, shut it down, how do we
the media, you the senators oh
people that have power in this
conversation force a reframing
of this conversation?
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| 00:04:45 | >> Well, I think you put it in
perspective in terms of amount
of the cuts.
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| 00:04:52 | If you are spending $2,000 a
month family on basic necessity
and take the kind of cuts we are
talking about you know, you cut
less than $10 out of your
budget.
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| 00:05:00 | So we are not talking about
large amounts.
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| 00:05:04 | The problem is negotiating --
you know, the whole problem,
dylan with our whole political
system is everybody's worried
about politics and not the
policy.
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| 00:05:13 | And we need real leadership to
step up at every level to
address the policy questions
that have put our country at
risk.
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| 00:05:21 | And you know, they have already
offered a total of 33 billion.
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| 00:05:24 | I don't know why they couldn't
take one that has another 12 and
you're two-thirds of way what
they have already offered.
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| 00:05:30 | I don't know.
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| 00:05:32 | To me, I don't think there is
anybody that wants the
government to get shut down and
so what we ought to say is hey,
guys, cool it with the politics,
work on the policy for our
country and our future.
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| 00:05:41 | >> If they were to do that,
wouldn't we see a real debate
about had health care, which is
costing us a fortune through
noncompetitive monopoly tied to
the employer based system from
THE '40s?
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| 00:05:53 | Wouldn't we see a real debate
about the various subsidies and
mistries prycing of energy from
oil to natural gas, wind, coal,
everything man manipulated one
way or the other,
inefficiencies, et cetera.
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| 00:06:08 | I don't care if they do a deal
at 50 billion, 70 billion or 10
billion, it doesn't solve our
problems.
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| 00:06:21 | >> You're right that debate
isn't about to start until we
get the cr out of the way.
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| 00:06:28 | We have only cult government
spending three times since world
war ii.
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| 00:06:31 | One is in '95, last two in the
last month.
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| 00:06:36 | Let's take what we can get, come
together, get the best deal for
the american people, recognizing
we have a president that doesn't
want to cut that much spending
and the democratic senate that
doesn't want to cut that much
spending and then let get on to
the real topics about saving our
country.
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| 00:06:50 | >> Am I too cynical to look at
this point at this specific
debate, senator, as having
ultimately resulted in a
political age to attack
certainly politically unpopular
things, whether it is the epa,
planned parenthood, or whatever,
which by the way, may be subject
for val did debate, maybe we
shouldn't be funding
broadcasting when the internet
exists?
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| 00:07:16 | What are we doing?
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| 00:07:16 | It is 20 century but nothing to
do with our budget debit.
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| 00:07:20 | Instead, we take the hot-button
I shall be use like planned
parenthood and epa and all this
nonsense and exploit the budget
debate an opportunity to take a
whack at those things which some
people don't like?
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| 00:07:30 | >> The one thing I have learned
in my years here, there's one
reason to talk about something,
if you want to talk about it to
create a political climate.
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| 00:07:40 | There's another -- common sense
way is what can I really get
done?
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| 00:07:43 | What's the realities of the
situation?
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| 00:07:47 | And my recommendation to my
friends in the house is, you
know, it's highly unlikely many
riders are going to get passed
with a democrat president and
democrat senate so why don't you
take the spending and let's get
on to the budget.
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| 00:07:59 | Paul ryan did put out one plan
yesterday which I congratulate
him on that actually addresses
the real issues in front of our
country.
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| 00:08:09 | You may not agree with it but he
is the only guy out there with a
plan.
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| 00:08:13 | >> A least he is following try
to create a framing debait
around the trillion-dollar
problem which is we can begin a
debate around.
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| 00:08:18 | >> That's right.
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| 00:08:19 | And what we lack, and I say this
in all sincerity, we lack the
courage of our elected leaders
to stand and lose to do the
right thing and you know what
you find is a paradox in
politics.
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| 00:08:32 | If you really talk about the
hard choices that are in front
of us and have to make them,
otherwise, ben bernanke is going
to steal our future through
inflation and low interest rates
and a net loss in our retirement
funds and a net loss in our
asset values, let's don't go
there.
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| 00:08:50 | Let's not have that.
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| 00:08:51 | And so, I really think we need
to be thinking longer term.
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| 00:08:56 | We need to be talking about the
big issues but not going to get
that done until we get past the
cr.
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| 00:09:01 | >> Let's be honest, we have a
structural problem, I agree with
the assessment, the political
courage necessary to engage
whether it is a real health care
reform, real banking reform,
real energy reform, real defense
policy reform, I can, as a
politician, if I decide to run,
excuse my language, but I can
kick your butt by simply rolling
up and saying crazy tom coburn
or crazy whoever, I don't care a
democrat or republican, wants to
raise the cost of your gasoline,
an easy thing to mark when i
start talking about energy
policy, take away your health
care.
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| 00:09:35 | >> I disagree with that.
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| 00:09:37 | >> Tell me y.
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| 00:09:38 | >> Because if, in fact, people
campaign on sincere issues about
what they think, you know, i
have had all this stuff thrown
at me and my constituency
doesn't believe it because they
know I'm a dead-serious
individual.
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| 00:09:51 | So it's whether you plate game.
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| 00:09:52 | I refuse to play that game.
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| 00:09:55 | And if I won't play that game it
can't be used against me.
|
| 00:09:58 | >> At the same time, how do we
punish that behavior as opposed
to reward it in the system, as
we are now?
|
| 00:10:05 | >> The reason that that can
happen is because politicians
don't stand on principle and run
on politics all the time.
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| 00:10:14 | People are looking for leaders,
they are looking for statesmen,
stateswomen.
|
| 00:10:18 | They are looking for people to
do the right thing at the right
time for the right reason.
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| 00:10:24 | And when we reason continue to
have career politician that's my
word, I'm critical of the system
that put people in positions of
power who have very little
experience to make judgments
about the critical I shall be
use of the day, other than that
they have been in politics for
30 years so if we have real
people run for real office
outside of it we will stop that.
|
| 00:10:45 | And we will have our real issues
addressed.
|
| 00:10:48 | Not about whether the
republicans or democrats win.
|
| 00:10:50 | Right now, our country is in
trouble and everybody will
suffer if we don't attack the
real problems.
|
| 00:10:54 | >> I mean, at this point, yeah,
you and I could talk all
afternoon.
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| 00:11:01 | I will let you go now, senator,
I thank you for the
conversation, let's see what
happens on this budget debate
and get after it on the trillion
dollar front.
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| 00:11:09 | Love of that debate with you.
|
| 00:11:10 | Senator tom coburn.
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| 00:11:11 | Just getting started, of course,
on this lovely, very sunny
spring sort of wednesday in new
york city, wouldn't know it from
this air-conditioned 72-degree
studio but trust me, it is.
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| 00:11:22 | Still ahead, states of
emergency, while budget
shenanigans play out in
washington.
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| 00:11:26 | Local governments brace for the
impact.
|
| 00:11:29 | Think hot potato or musical
chairs.
|
| 00:11:32 | Have you solved the problem?
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| 00:11:34 | You get it.
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| 00:11:35 | Anyway --
>>> but first, gimme some space,
people.
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| 00:11:41 | Virgin galactic, my fantasy
ride, I'm saving for it now, one
step closer to private
spaceflight.
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| 00:11:49 | We will ask sir richard branson
if he's got room in that plane
for any of our panelists,
straight ahead.
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| 00:11:55 | >>> Plus, sentenced to court.
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| 00:11:57 | One woman learns a valuable
lesson about how not to get out
of jury duty.
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| 00:15:34 | Welcome back.
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| 00:15:35 | Have you ever dreamed of
something, perhaps even going to
space?
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| 00:15:39 | Well, it's possible.
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| 00:15:40 | We are breaking it down with a
man who is making that dream
come true, as long as you've got
A COUPLE HUNDRED Gs AND GIVE HIM
A little bit more time to work
out the kinks.
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| 00:15:49 | Sir richard branson, reaching
yet another milestone today,
announcing that virgin america
and virgin galactic will be the
first to land at san francisco
international airports, stunning
terminal two.
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| 00:16:04 | Let me repeat that space planes
landing at san francisco
international airport, in
affect, alongside earth planes.
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| 00:16:12 | One to think b here to talk
about space tourism and his next
move, yes there is one after
this, ha ha ha, I just saw the
video, richard, and as I was
describing your next move, I'm
not sure how that timed out.
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| 00:16:34 | >> Make you jealous, I found two
lovely ladies walking through
the airport working for ju--
virgin america.
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| 00:16:45 | And how are you?
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| 00:16:46 | >> I'm well and mission
accomplished.
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| 00:16:48 | >> Mission very accomplished.
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| 00:16:50 | It was a great day today, we did
actually, yeah, fly in, american
air will in the same terminal as
us, brand-new beautiful
terminal.
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| 00:17:00 | Decide they had would fly in
with a dc-3 we thought how can
we upstage them?
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| 00:17:06 | We thought we have got a
spaceship.
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| 00:17:07 | Let's fly in with a spaceship.
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| 00:17:08 | That wasn't bad.
|
| 00:17:09 | >> As a multidecade entrepreneur
and a litany of businesses,
having conceived of ideas,
fantasized about things, raised
money and then done years of
work to actually try to do
everything from music to we all
know your resume, how does this
feel?
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| 00:17:29 | >> Right now -- oh, sorry.
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| 00:17:32 | Right now, it feels fantastic.
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| 00:17:34 | Yesterday we unveiled this, you
know, the furtherest an american
submarine down is 18,000 feet.
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| 00:17:43 | This submarine will go 36,000
feet under.
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| 00:17:46 | We will be able to one day take
you down and explore the bottom
of the observations and find
species that have never been
discovered before, maybe 80% of
species.
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| 00:17:55 | And then today, you know, flying
in with the spaceship on one
side and with -- in the virgin
america men and incredibly proud
of the airline, to wonderful new
terminal, anyway, pretty damn
good.
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| 00:18:10 | This can't be bad either.
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| 00:18:11 | >> If I just invented a
spaceship, flew it to space,
came back, was hanging out with
the two people you're hanging
out with and my side time
invented virgin oceanic, I would
feel okay as well.
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| 00:18:23 | Let's talk a little bit about
the spaceship itself --
>> happy to share them.
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| 00:18:30 | >> Well --
>> they can't hear anything I'm
sagging, so.
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| 00:18:33 | >> Be careful, you're going to
get a lot of people taking you
up.
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| 00:18:37 | How does a spaceship -- tell us
where we stand with the
spaceship.
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| 00:18:43 | >> It is going great.
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| 00:18:44 | I should think about 12 to 18
months away from going into
space.
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| 00:18:51 | I'm here with many of our
astronauts who signed up to go
into space, nearly up to 450
people who have signed up.
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| 00:19:03 | The space port is nearly
finished in new mexico, so
couldn't be going better,
really, very, very, very
excited.
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| 00:19:10 | >> Educate us on virgin oceanic.
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| 00:19:13 | What is this?
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| 00:19:15 | >> Well, the -- our observations
haven't been explored.
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| 00:19:18 | Only two people have ever been
below 20,000 feet.
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| 00:19:21 | And yet the trenches go down to
36,000 feet.
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| 00:19:25 | So, scientists are incredibly
frustrated that they just don't
know about the species down
there.
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| 00:19:33 | They literally don't -- the
observations just haven't been
marked.
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| 00:19:37 | We don't know where all the
spanish galleons are full of
gold.
|
| 00:19:42 | We have built a submarine where
we are going to go down to the
puerto rican trench, to the
marianna trench, to the deepest
trench notice world and I'm pref
lynned enough to be doing the
puerto rican trench myself, near
neckar island five miles way,
goes down 29,000 feet.
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| 00:20:02 | No one's been down it.
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| 00:20:03 | So, we just don't know what we
are going to discover down there
>> and give -- just from a
design standpoint, maybe I'm
only one who is thinking that
the audience is like why is
dylan going to ask him this but
interested to know, how much of
the technology you use on the
spaceship is transferable to the
ocean vessel?
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| 00:20:23 | >> Interestingly, the developing
a submarine is more difficult
than the spaceship.
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| 00:20:28 | The reason that, you know, the
american government never had a
submarine go below 18,000 feet
is the enormous pressure.
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| 00:20:36 | I mean it is 1500 times more
pressure on a submarine, 36,000
foot down than on an airplane.
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| 00:20:46 | And that's quite a challenge.
|
| 00:20:47 | So you know, we have used the
strongest carbon fiber we can
find.
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| 00:20:55 | We have take than quartz,
massive piece of quartz and
very, very slowly cut it cut it,
to create a big glass window on
the top and just going through
the final pressure tests and
looking good.
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| 00:21:11 | Hopefully in three or four
months, we will embark down on
the mar ran nah trench.
|
| 00:21:15 | >> When you are as ambitious as
you are, how important is your
confidence level when you
entertain these idsing and
what do you think other people,
small or large businesses, small
or large entrepreneurs can learn
about the way weigh that you
sort of -- the way you built and
exploit your own confidence when
you undertake these types of
things?
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| 00:21:44 | >>.
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| 00:21:45 | >> First of all, love to give
things a try and not too
frightened of falling flat on
our face if we fail.
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| 00:21:50 | For instance, we once took it on
coca-cola and we fell flat on
our face.
|
| 00:21:55 | So we are willing to try things.
|
| 00:21:57 | And some things succeed, some
things fail.
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| 00:22:01 | But unless you try things, you
have got no chance of success.
|
| 00:22:06 | By starting the spaceship
program because we believed many
people wanted to go into space,
you know we suddenly realized we
can actually send satellites
into space at a fraction of the
price that other people k maybe
able to do point-to-point travel
much quicker than other people k
by just trying to these things,
you discover new things that you
perhaps didn't even think
existed.
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| 00:22:28 | >> Well, listen, you are a hero
and a role model for a lot of
folks in this world and not just
because you hang out with pretty
girls.
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| 00:22:36 | Bye, ard branson.
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| 00:22:41 | >>> Still ahead, yes there is
more to come.
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| 00:22:43 | Can you really be sentenced to
indefinite jury duty if you give
the wrong answer?
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| 00:26:02 | >>> well, be careful what you
put on your jury duty
questionnaire, my friends,
because while some answers may
get you dismissed, common
technique, others could get you
stuck on jury duty forever.
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| 00:26:13 | According to a "new york daily
news" story here, a federal
judge sentenced a potential
juror to serve indefinitely
after she trashed a number of
minority groups.
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| 00:26:22 | When asked to name three people
she least admired in her
questionnaire, juror number 799
answered african-americans,
hispanics and haitians.
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| 00:26:33 | The judge didn't take so well to
that, proclaiming in front of
the entire courtroom, this is an
outrage and so are you.
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| 00:26:40 | It's unclear whether the woman
really hates minorities or
really just hates jury duty.
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| 00:26:45 | Either way, they will have
plenty of time to think about
her answers because the judge,
get this ordered her to come
back tomorrow, the next day the
next day and, in fact, every day
until he decides she is no
longer required.
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| 00:26:59 | We will continue the legal theme
next with our megapanel.
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| 00:27:02 | Coming up, handcuffs on wall
street.
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| 00:27:04 | Will we see more and why are the
CEOs STILL UNTOUCHABLE?
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